[sdiy] Future SYNTH-DIY

[karl dalen]

--- Rainer Buchty <rainer at buchty.net> skrev::
> > I thought the issue was landfill?
> 
> Yes, I know. But that reason is plain bullshit to me.
> 
> (1) Here, it is not allowed to dump electronics into the normal 
> household dumpster. You might not even put it in the recycling bin. 
> Instead, you bring it to the nearest recycling center. 
> 
> If *they* put it in a landfill, sorry, but then there's something really 
> wrong here.
> 
> (2) Even *if* you put it in the recycling bin -- if the recycling 
> company puts it in a landfill, then there's also something really wrong 
> here.
> 
> (3) And if it's put into the waste bucket, it usually gets burned. We 
> just don't have the space for landfills... In that case the fumes get 
> filtered and the ashes stored away.
> 
> In any case, I just don't see the scenario happening, that electronic 
> waste ends up in landfills. 20 years ago, maybe. But we've been severely 
> eco-brainwashed (in Germany) so that even I feel really bad if I have to 
> throw something into the wastebucket and *not* the biowaste/compost, 
> glass, metal, paper, or plastics recycling bins.
> 
> > A lot of electronics end up in landfill
> 
> Sorry to say, but that is then a problem of proper waste disposal. There 
> is more to waste disposal than just collecting and burying it somewhere 
> in the woods.
> 
> There are fully automatic machines *for years* which just take *any* 
> sort of ordinary household waste and pick out the recycleable material. 
> Hardly any human control required...
> 
> If they want to ensure that the vendors (well, make that "the 
> customers") are paying, then they should just add a fee (like the "green 
> point" we have in Germany which adds 1ct per item and ensures, that the 
> stuff gets buried somewhere in France, erm, properly recycled I wanted 
> to say...) ... But what they are doing now is just ruining small 
> business.
> 
> OTOH, it seems to be the very intent of European legislature to wipe out 
> small business and clear the market for just big players.
> 
> >I think that's what I meant about the death of Synth DIY. This is a 
> >major pain for hobbyists, but it's potentially lethal for small-scale 
> >companies like Doepfer and Moog and the rest.
> 
> Oh, easy thing. Just don't sell to EU anymore... Or only do B2B.
> 
> Regarding Doepfer and Moog -- they are already big enough to withstand 
> the RoHS impact. But any newcomer will have a truly bad time, I guess.

Not neccerily, as long as components get led free all
solder processes also turn into lead free.

ROHS directive is not like  that there will be an Adolf H 
standing at your door step next year at a certain date and
put a bullet trough your but, if you hapends to have 
some lead lying around your apartement!

Read the directive and you will se that you can manufacture 
with lead well beyond the directive date. All they want is
that you tell them that you are in the "progress" of shifting
phasing  out your lead stuff, even if your a small company!

The ROhS directive is just a futher development of a on going process
to make this planet a healthier place, so where is the fault in that?

ROhS is not only about lead free electronics its intent is lead free
"manythings" such as gasoline, lead free hunting, rifle ammo,
lead free car weel balancing , led free fhising, tackles, etc etc.

Reg
KD