1970's again? (was Re: [sdiy] pro EQs)

[Peter Grenader]

Kenneth.

Outside of some guy who wanted to make a VCO that produced circle waves or
some such thing about a year ago, there hasn't been an outbreak of anything
but camaraderie, respect and assistance here, without opinion of why is
someone even doing whatever it is they are asking for help on.  I for one
hope it stays this way!!  I'm sure there are many here like me who have no
idea who the moderator is because they have never had to break up the tizzy
fits that litter AH and the Gas Station.

SDIY'ers do this because...they can and they enjoy it whether it's for the
generation of their own music, for someone else's, or for any other reason.
There are few others things that are as gratifying as juicing up a circuit
of your own design and see it do exactly what it is you intended it to the
first time around.   Remember, not everyone on this list is a musician!
Some are engineers, some are programmers, it's all over the map here. They
begin like I did taking on projects they think they can handle, even if it's
been done a billion times before and then in time move to larger, more
complex circuits that present more of a challenge.

respectfully submitted,

- P


 Elhardt wrote:

> Paul Maddox writes:
>>> For me, I enjoying building synths, far more than buying them. The same is
> true for my wife who enjoys 'crafts', why shoudl she spend 8 hours making a
> single card when she can buy one for a couple of quid? Why should she enjoy
> painting when she can go and buy something better and not have the hassle?
> As has been said, why should you play synths? why not just go and play a
> CD?<<
> 
> The Peasant writes:
>>> Well Kenneth, this is a *DIY* list, we do these things because we WANT to,
> and no other justification is required. I could go into the numerous
> excellent reasons to DIY these things, but if you just don't get it, then I
> really cannot help you.  As others have suggested, why don't you get rid of
> your synths and instead buy some "professional" music?<<
> 
> Buying a CD of music instead of composing and performing new music isn't at
> all an equal analogy here.  And an artist that paints a picture is hopefully
> creating something new.  I was pointing out that going the DIY route to do
> something that's already been done many times seems rather wasteful.
> Especially when done in a more primitive way ei. underpowered 6502
> processors, awful sounding 8 bit DAC's, ROM multiplication lookup tables,
> external RAM, and so forth.  A single cheap chip these days will do all of
> that, better, faster, and easier.
> 
> I've also always considered being into synthesis meant first and foremost
> people wanted to use synths.  Spending lots of time building yet another
> oscillator because you don't want to buy one takes away from that first
> goal.  That might explain why I've never heard a single composition (or
> sound or note) from most of the DIY community.  Building yet another
> wavetable oscillator may be fun to some, but isn't that supposed to lead to
> actually using it?
> 
> Glen writes:
>>> That's nothing. Where I come from, people still dig holes in the ground
> with shovels!  :)
> If the technology is affordable and does exactly what you want, why not use
> it?<<
> 
> On this list is seems like some are digging holes with rakes.  I've never
> known 8 bit digital to be adequate for processing analog audio.
> 
> Sven Windisch writes:
>>> I don't want to destroy your world-view, but say this: Get you some event
> technicians and studio engineers and ask them about Behringer. I tell you
> what they'll say: Behringer gear is not good for anthing but noise
> generation.<<
> 
> I was waiting for some comment like this.  Seeing how Behringer has
> different levels of quality and both analog and digital devices I don't see
> how anyone can catagorize them all the same way.  I have some Behringer
> gear, and it isn't any more noisy than any of my other gear.  I've also
> bought some of it because it does some things not available elsewhere.
> 
> -Elhardt
>