[sdiy] VCA venting

[phillip m gallo]

Pat,

Look for a mis-wire, if your frustrated have a glass of wine, and start
again.  If you have a meter "ring out" the circuit, ring it out from the
component side so you don't mirror/interchange pins.

If your convinced connections are true and the orientation (common error
with Tranny's and Diodes) is correct then Scott's test should help you check
the 3080 component.

Passing this test, and still failing to find the problem, (and assuming your
'353 is socketed) pop LF353 output leg (driving the trannie/diode) and
jumper +10V to the CV Input jack.  Does the VCA pass audio? Removing this
voltage does the VCA attenuate audio?  If you answer either question NO the
opamp/trannie/diode orientation is wrong or the parts have failed.

regards,
p


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
[mailto:owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl]On Behalf Of Scott Gravenhorst
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:36 AM
To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
Subject: Re: [sdiy] VCA venting


Just a guess, but maybe the current source isn't sourcing current?

One thing you can try is to connect the top end of the 15K resistor feeding
Iabc to the 3080 to a 10K pot to ground.  The 10K pot is used as a variable
series resistor.  Twisting the pot should control the VCA somewhat.  If it
does, the problem is in the current source.

I'm sure you can measure it.  My guess is that the Iabc pin should be more
positive than the negative rail if there's any Iabc current flowing.

"Pat Kammerer" <spivkurl at wearerecords.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>This is the one I'm working on right now;
>http://www.oldcrows.net/~jhaible/tonline_stuff/hjvcaod.gif
>
>The drive part works fine, I think, but it's the only way I can get a
decent
>signal level at the output.  With drive turned down, the signal is
virtually
>non existent.
>
>I did find one mistake, which was a wrong value capacitor, but it didn't
>really make a difference.  BTW, am I right that the capacitor in the
>feedback of the 2nd op amp is 10p as in picofarads?  It seems so small.  I
>couldn't track one of these down so I had to use a 12p one, would that make
>a difference.
>
>But, I've check over my work and reflowed solder points with no effect.
The
>only way I can get a decent CV control of level is to wire a trim from the
>CV input to the collector of the transistor
>
>No matter what, the two pots other than drive don't seem to do anything.
Or
>maybe I just can't hear what they are doing ... ; )
>
>Here is the other, or so I think, I can't get to Yves pages anymore : (
>http://www-timc.imag.fr/Yves.Usson/personnel/SDIY/Modular/index.html
>
>This one just has no control, and little gain.  I haven't looked at it in a
>little while.
>
>Thanks,
>Pat
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Scott Gravenhorst <music.maker at gte.net>
>To: <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
>Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:36 AM
>Subject: Re: [sdiy] VCA venting
>
>
>> Can you link us to schematics?
>>
>> "Pat Kammerer" <spivkurl at wearerecords.com> wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I just had to vent...  When I got into Synth DIY I had this strange
>> >assumption that building VCAs would be easier than the other main
>modules.
>> >My recent experience has made this seem not the case.
>> >
>> >I've built two different VCAs on perfboard, and both of them seem to
have
>> >the same problem.  The CV does nothing.  I can get a signal, but no
>matter
>> >how I trim it I can get the CV to work.  I can however get the CV to
>effect
>> >gain by sending it into a different point in the circuits.  This doesn't
>> >make any sense to me...
>> >
>> >If anyone has any good general advise, then I would appreciate it,
>otherwise
>> >just ignore me.   : )
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Pat
>> >
>>
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