[sdiy] Re: my little comment somehow got out of hand :P

Karl Ekdahl _nial_ at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 2 01:10:35 CEST 2004


I had for several years the pain in my neck of trying
to do new stuff all the time, but lately i've come to
conclusion that it's not really neccesary. Recently me
and a friend started a project that is extremely
influenced by Skinny Puppy (yes, their 80's and early
90's material is still the best ever in my oppinion)
and my brothers comment about our music was that it
sounded way too much like said band. My reasoning is
though that NO band (not that i've heard at least) has
done anything like the stuff they did so why not
follow a good tradition? Think about it, much music
that you probably listen to isn't that innovative,
everything has been done by someone at some time in
some context. Whenever people goes "hey, is this some
old Skinny Puppy single from the 80's?" i'm proud to
say "no, we did it a month ago".

This is getting way OT but it's a really interesting
discussion.

regards

Karl

 --- "M.A. Koot" <makoot at gmx.net> skrev: 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to react on your comment Nate, I couldn't
> agree with you more.
> More than 10 years ago I also discovered these kind
> of people (I'm 23 yrs,
> so not that old yet), and I truely detested them.
> People who go to
> conservatoria (if that's an english word) have great
> playing and
> theory-skills but totally lack in creativity and
> originality. I still know
> dozens of those kind of people, they are in masses.
> For a long time I was a fanatic against these people
> but once you have to
> let it go, it's just not stoppible. That's just the
> way it works I guess.
> 
> But I still think that you can notice if one piece
> of musical composition is
> creative or not (while hoping it's not stolen from
> someone else of coarse,
> which sadly enough happens more and more..). There
> are still bands and
> groups around who I believe to be truely musical,
> fresh, creative and
> original. The sad thing is that most "empty" musics
> still seems to be
> preferred by the masses though.
> You must consider that most people can't see a
> certain depth and originality
> in music. They fall easily for camouflaged music as
> loads of reverb and that
> kind of things and things like "succes chords" as I
> like to call certain
> standard "always reaching succes" kind of chords and
> chordprogressions.
> And as I read I see that there are still more people
> who see this blindness
> that the mass has, and as long as those people, like
> here, are around, I can
> live with it. You can't show the masses what they
> can't see anyhow.
> 
> P.S. I'd also like to add that I also experienced
> first hand that only true
> talent can -stay- original. When you are producing
> and composing music, you
> will have to come up with something you haven't done
> allready, and it still
> has to be good and harmonic and everything. In the
> years I have composing
> music I experienced it has been harder and harder to
> keep getting new ideas
> which I, or others, hadn't come up with yet, and
> still have that problem.
> But I refuse to go to simple and flat music, or copy
> someone else, I just
> can't see the beauty in that. Lots of artist most
> probably would have to
> make a living out of it, and that's probably the
> reason why they do this,
> due to lack of true creativity and maby no other
> option. That's the reason
> why I did not choose the risk to make a living out
> if it either. I guess you
> only can if you are a true talent, and those are
> rare.
> 
> Cheers,
> Michiel
>  



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