Re: [sdiy] Newbie alert :-)
carsten at analog-monster.de
carsten at analog-monster.de
Fri Oct 1 09:06:02 CEST 2004
Hi Nicolai,
I'm one of the Formant synthesizer fetishists following the MSS2000
book, but I also added other stuff to my modular, so here is my story:
http://www.analog-monster.de/
Cheers
Carsten
--
Analog-Monster!
Synthesizer DIY Project
http://www.analog-monster.de
Nicolai Czempin <nicolai.czempin at alcatel.de> schrieb am 30.09.2004,
13:33:08:
> Hi,
>
> I'm new here, a brief introduction (plus not-so-brief general babbling,
> and finally the actual on-topic post :-):
>
> I'm Nicolai Czempin, a 34-year old software developer from Berlin, Germany.
> Ever since I got my VIC-20 back in 1982, I have stayed firmly on the
> software side of things.
> I have always found I was missing out on the interesting "low-level
> stuff" called "electronics" ;-).
>
> Two facts have "pushed me over the edge" of getting started:
> a) I now work for Alcatel, albeit in a software-oriented role, but being
> surrounded by lots of EEs.
> b) My two sons, 7 and 4.5, are developing interests in
> technical/scientific stuff (of course I am not totally innocent in
> that), they both want to become "robot builders" when they grow up :-),
> and I am supplying them with [all the stuff I never had as a kid :-]
> some basic kits (KOSMOS here in Germany). Going through the electronics
> "starter" kit (I won't let them experiment all by themselves yet, so I
> have to do it with them for now) did it for me.
>
> I had bought the odd book or so, and I have a modest background from my
> Physics A-Levels (although back then I was only interested in the
> digital stuff).
> But now I'm actually starting for real: I have bought a supply of basic
> components and tools, have wired up a few simple circuits on a breadboard.
> Yesterday I bought an oscilloscope (without the probes, duh!) and the
> next purchase will be a 3-output power supply.
>
> In my experience, I always need some kind of project, some goal to work
> towards. For example, I feel strongly that a programmer should always
> learn additional languages, not necessarily because he can use them all
> in projects, but seeing different approaches will increase the programs
> I write even in "standard" languages such as C++ or Java. But all my
> attempts to learn new (to me) languages have been unsuccessful when all
> I did was get a book and just dabble. But here in my current project
> (I'm a contractor) my first task was to write some code in a language
> called Ruby (that I had wanted to take a look at all along) that I had
> never used. And lo and behold, because I had a concrete project, I was
> able to learn the fundamentals quite quickly.
>
> So, in my aim to learn more about hardware, I have decided two areas
> that would motivate me would be
> a) robots and
> b) music.
>
> So, to cut things a bit short, b) is why I'm here, I want to build my
> own analogue synthesizer. I have surfed around a bit for the past few
> days/weeks, and naturally this mailing list is where I landed.
> I am sure the question that will follow right at the end is answered
> somewhere in the ML archives, and I apologize for not yet having
> searched through them. I have also found the odd "how to get started"
> page on the web. But hopefully I am adding another twist to the
> question, but then again, maybe not.
>
> My philosophy in software development is that it should be done
> "incrementally and iteratively". My mantra is to implement "the simplest
> thing that could possibly work" first and then improve on it. So, from
> my "research" (e. g. "Sound Synthesis and Sampling" by Martin Russ), I
> have found that a "canonical" setup (apparently "hard-wired" into a lot
> of the non-modular synthesisers) would be LFO->2VCO->VCF->VCA (naturally
> it's a bit more compicated than what I can show in a line of text, see
> the book for more detail). And the "simplest thing that could possibly
> work" is one VCO.
>
> So I have collected tons of schematics for VCOs (from "300 oscillators",
> a German book called "Experimente mit
> Operationsverstaerkern"-experiments with opamps, plus "The Art of
> Electronics", plus a book based on the simulation software "Electronics
> Workbench"). So far, the only one that actually produced any sound on
> the loudspeaker was an "astable multivibrator" based on the 555. I know,
> it's not voltage-controlled, but having *any* oscillator oscillating is
> a success for a rank beginner like myself. Even if the actual sound was
> nasty :-)
> I have tried circuits based on discrete components, the 741, as well as
> on the LM331. In many cases, I couldn't get precisely those components
> specified by the schematics. With my semi-non-knowledge (purely
> theoretical) I tried to substitute "equivalent" components. So far
> without luck.
> Now, you may say, with all those EEs around me, it should be trivial to
> get some help. Yes indeed, and I will use as much as I can. But
> obviously this ML is the right place for synthesizer-specific questions
> (add that most of the EEs don't actually do any hardware work :-).
>
> So, here it comes:
> Can you please give me/point me towards schematics for a minimalistic
> VCO, that, and here's the catch, I can build with just the basic
> components I get from "Conrad" (which, as far as I understand, would be
> the German equivalent for "Radio Shack"). I'm not concerned at all with
> quality, I just want something that makes some noise (actually, signal
> would be preferred :-) on the little LS. It may be a certain lack of
> understanding, perhaps you're not supposed to hear anything directly
> from the VCO, and you definitely need some kind of amplifier (once I get
> my osci probes I can at least see if "I am" oscillating anything at all,
> that I'd just need to amplify). I wouldn't mind starting with an
> IC-based one (because it will be simpler to build), but at some point
> I'd like to advance to discrete components, simply because I want to
> know what's going on under the hood.
>
> Perhaps some of you would say that I should start with something
> simpler, but the method of trial and error has been very successful for
> me. First, I used to just copy BASIC programs (and a lot of those were
> way above my understanding at the time) from magazines (back in the
> 80s), and when they wouldn't work I had to spend some time trying to
> find out why. Worked for me.
>
> Anyway. Please help. TIA. YMMV. SCNR. LOL.
>
>
> mfg Nicolai Czempin
>
> P. S. I managed to blow an analog multimeter on the day I had bought it.
> Luckily it was of the 5 Euro variety. I guess one has to go through
> these experiences oneself :-)
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