[sdiy] VCO reset time

mark verbos mverbos at earthlink.net
Mon Jun 7 01:41:52 CEST 2004


How about doing both and then feeding the outputs into an XOR based ring 
mod, or any kind of logic gate array. You could get some new sounds 
maybe. Just a dumb thought... has anyone done that?

Mark



Don Tillman wrote:

>   > From: "JH." <jhaible at debitel.net>
>   > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 14:14:12 +0200
>   > 
>   > I only was partially surprised, because tri based PWM still
>   > _sounds_ like having some angle modulation components; it's just
>   > surprising when you look at the modulated waveform and see that
>   > its symmetry is is never changed.  I would have to dig this up,
>   > but I'm sure Magnus you are faster developing the formula
>   > yourself than me finding the old calculations. If memory serves,
>   > the fundamental of a tri based pwm has no angle modulation
>   > component, but the higher harmonics still do.
>
>Email posts are not the best medium for this, so we'll just have to
>pretend we're all sitting around a table with a large pad of paper, a
>few pens, and a pitcher of "Fat Tire Amber Ale".
>
>The topic is PWM from a triangle vs. PWM from a sawtooth.
>
>Magnus just reached over and pulled out the equations for triangle-
>based PWM, and, strangely enough, the fundamental and all the
>harmonics are all in phase.
>
>Triangle-based PWM sounds great.  It's like the harmonics are all
>phasing around.  Yet remarkably, the phases of the harmonics are not
>actually changing.
>
>What's happening is a comb filter effect.  At this point I take the
>pad of paper and draw out the harmonic spectrum of a pulse stream, and
>it shows that the strength of the harmonics take the overall shape of
>a decaying full-wave-rectified sine wave.  [scribble-scribble...]
>
>As the pulse width narrows, the FWR sine shape spreads out.  And for
>the theoretical case of an infinitely narrow pulse, the spectrum is
>flat and the harmonics all have the same level.  [scribble...]
>
>As the width of the pulses increase, going toward a square wave, the
>FWR sine shape compresses.  And for the case of a symmetrical square
>wave there's a null for each of the even harmonics and we get the
>classic all odd harmonics sound.  [scribble...]
>
>It's the moving shape of the spectrum that we hear as the
>triangle-based PMW sound.
>
>Now...
>
>Triangle-based PWM and sawtooth-based PWM are essentially the same
>thing.  The difference is that with sawtooth-based PWM, everything is
>moving back and forth in time with the modulating signal compared to
>the triangle version.  So the phase of the fundamental is changing,
>and the phase of each harmonic is changing by multiples of that.
>
>For an audio VCO, triangle-based PWM is more "correct".  The duty
>cycle of the waveform is changing and nothing else.  An audio VCO with
>sawtooth-based PWM has all these other phases and timings changing;
>that may sound better for some applications, and it makes a great
>optional feature, but it's not what was asked for.
>
>For an LFO, folks care less about phase, it's more about where the
>waveform starts.  So for an LFO it may be more reasonable to have
>falling-sawtooth-based PWM because the effective start of the
>waveform, the rising point, stays in place as the modulating
>voltage changes.
>
>  -- Don
>
>  
>



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