[sdiy] Is it me or...

[phillip m gallo]

Peter,

Setup is Non Recurring.  So most quotes indicate labor for the work (and
any materials) and the NRE for the setup.  The hidden thing is that if
they have lot's of steady work, your job interrupts this, causes them to
remove existing jigs, programming, figure out yours, and then run your
jobs.  It's not a matter of what the machinist makes per hour it what
the "machine" is capable of making per hour.   

regards,
p


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
[mailto:owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of Peter Grenader
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 1:50 PM
To: James Patchell; synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Is it me or...


What you say is true,  but I'm not buyin' it in this instance.  This is
a piece of sheet metal with holes in a matrix - all of them fall at .8
in horizontally, by .85 inch vertically. The ONLY catch is there are 4
different hole sizes.

I originally came to them to quote drilling all the faceplates on precut
aluminum that I WOULD PROVIDE and they wanted $850 for 50 pieces.  Work
the math - that's $17 each!  At a quantity of 10 or so I could see this,
but at fifty...I dunno. SO, I settled for a drill guide instead and for
the $$ they want for that, I might as well have them drill all of them.
Obviously, neither is going to happen here.

You guys can actually see the piece here, it's not high tech by any
means:

http://www.buzzclick-music.com/DRILLGUIDE.pdf

Unless they are paying their people $175 on hour, I don't get it.



 James Patchell wrote:

> If you ordered two pieces, it would probably still cost about 
> $500....the main cost for a machine shop is the setup.  Also, ask the 
> person giving the quote why it is $500.  Sometimes you may make a 
> drawing that something on it that is difficult to do which can really 
> make the cost go up.  By changing the drawing, in that case, you can 
> greatly reduce the price of the object...one common mistake, 
> specifying too tight a tolerance...
> 
> At 12:25 PM 7/24/2004 -0700, Peter Grenader wrote:
>> I was just quoted $500 from a machine shop to cut a single piece of 
>> 1/8 inch steel about 5 x 3.5 inches and drill 24 holes in it. OK, 
>> there are four drill sizes involved, but..
>> 
>> GIVE ME A #*)#(*#()*@*&? BREAK!
>> 
>> Is this what these guys are making nowdays?  I mean, is this normal?
> 
> -Jim
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