Why DIY? (was Re: [sdiy] Another new hard to find part....)

[Scott Gravenhorst]

Just curious, JB, do you have a website where we can experience what you've done
with SDIY?

jbv <jbv.silences at club-internet.fr> wrote:
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>john mahoney a *crit :
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>> You know what's annoying, JB? To have a remark taken out of context and used
>> in a way that contradicts your larger message -- and that's what you did to
>> me, there. Did you read the last paragraph of my post, or did your attention
>> give out before you got there? (That's where I mentioned that people are
>> doing new work.)
>>
>> You don't get into synth DIY by inventing and building, say, a new type of
>> frequency shifter as your first project. You need to build the equivalent of
>> a "Hello, World!" program; then you build some more existing circuits;
>> finally, you may try to develop something new and different. Besides, most
>> synths have a set of standard modules. Are you suggesting that we should all
>> build everything from scratch? I think that I'm missing your point.
>>
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>OK OK folks. calm down please.
>didn't mean to attack anyone, just tried to shake the coconut tree a bit while
>making a short pause in the middle of weeks of coding - nothing to do with
>sdiy, unfortunately [sigh]
>
>I've been on this list since spring 1997, and if I've always been (pleasantly)
>amazed by the terrific skills of most members, I've also regretted that most
>of them seem happy to refine a very limited range of skills and applications...
>
>Just like vinyl collectors who explore to death recordings by Elvis between
>1954 and 1960... or entomologists who specialize in reproduction of a very
>specific kind of worm that lives only on a specific kind of tree in the south-
>west rainforest of Costa-Rica...
>
>and BTW why is the discussion always dying in the "analog vs DSP"
>bottleneck ? Because marketing campaigns of big manufactors focuse on
>this issue since the early 90's ? That's not an valid excuse IMHO...
>
>Just off the top of my head (sorry I'd like to spend days & days discussing
>those issues, but I really lack time these days), here are a couple of topics
>regarding mixed / hybrid technologies & projects that could be discussed
>here (AFAIR they appeared on the list during the past 12 or 24 months, but
>didn't live very long - and of course, these are just examples of how to
>escape the (sterile IMHO) "analog vs DSP" topic; many others are possible
>of course, just put your imagination at work) :
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>1- realtime 3D GUI running on a PC and used to program / drive an analog
>modular (not just emulation of modules front plates & patch cords, I mean a
>totally new kind of 3D GUI to design & control sounds & musical processes)
>
>2- several distant modulars (with their own ISP) connected over the net...
>what kind of applications (beside remote maintenance), musical collaborations,
>concepts, new kind of modules, etc ?
>
>3- a continuous realtime stream of data available on the web, on which anyone
>could connect a soft-synth or an analog modular and participate to / interact
>in
>an online performance, eventually influence the data stream according to
>certain
>rules (biological, evolution)...
>
>4- new modules including NN, GA, but not in a soft-synth : real modules with
>switches & knobs to be included in a modular...
>
>etc etc.
>
>these are examples of mixed technologies that IMHO could create a synergy
>between existing (but still isolated) technologies, would perhaps lead to new
>and really cool concepts, and would certainly leave the "analog vs DSP" topic
>on the side of the road for good.
>Last but not least, some technologies developped for cellular phones could
>probably be borrowed for some of these projects...
>
>
>>
>> Back to my original point: Richard keeps talking about Reaktor, which is not
>> SDIY. His other remarks seem anti-DIY.
>>
>
>not sure... being interested in soft-synths can make you want to learn more
>about what's inside the beast, and pretty soon you find yourself coding in C,
>just like 30 years ago I found myself soldering trannies because I felt the
>irresistible need to know more about the way those great new electronic devices
>
>worked...
>and coding your own soft-synth on your laptop IS s-diy (although this is
>brillantly covered by the music-dsp list, which is not only about DSP chips,
>but more generally about digital signal processing and associated technologies
>applied to musical concepts...
>
>JB
>

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