[sdiy] UAF42
Scott Gravenhorst
music.maker at gte.net
Wed Feb 25 02:16:09 CET 2004
Wow. Digikey's search response is ambiguous. It shows both hits for
stock and hits for obsolete material.
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Criteria?Ref=238492&Site=US&Cat=31589264
Still, it's a chunk of change, even if at $7.50 each.
<philgallo at attglobal.net> wrote:
>Well according to TI it's still in production in DIP and SMD but now
>that Burr Brown is TI, the old fab is obsolete. You can find it's
>product page @:
>
>http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/uaf42.html#inventory
>
>The appnotes and the design software can be found there.
>
>The budgetary for 1k pcs is $7.55 US so the old Digikey markup rears
>it's head again. These chips conform to the standard "pricey" Burr
>Brown marketing model.
>
>Being that an SVF needs only two precision caps, a Mouser order for
>poly's and a little handpicking is probably a better solution.
>
>regards,
>p
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>[mailto:owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl] On Behalf Of Scott
>Gravenhorst
>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:53 PM
>To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>Subject: Re: [sdiy] UAF42
>
>
>I thought for a fixed cutoff filter bank, "why not?" until I did a
>search. I checked Jameco, Digikey and Mouser, only Digikey
>had it (around 1000 in stock) for $12.58 in unit quantities, no larger
>quantity prices were listed. Digikey notes that it is
>obsolete. For _that_ much $, I think a decent quad opamp and
>some good caps might be more economical.
>
>
>
>Scott Stites <scottnoanh at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>Hi Scott,
>>
>>Good points, indeed. I have to agree with Phillip, though, for
>>Vactrol hounds like me, it would make a pretty compact little SVF
>>(haven't calculated it yet, but I think the 1000 pF caps in that
>>case would be fine). Of course, the matching of the Vactrols
>>would obliterate the spec on the caps =-D.
>>
>>An exponential current sink to drive the Vactrols would take a
>>couple of transistors, and, while I'm at it, hang a Vactrol off
>>of pin 3 and get VC resonance.
>>
>>Now that Rene Schmitz 4007 design......I'll definitely have to try
>>that, too!
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Scott
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Scott Gravenhorst <music.maker at gte.net>
>>Sent: Feb 24, 2004 12:37 PM
>>To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>>Subject: Re: [sdiy] Cool chip alert
>>
>>Wow, I thought it was a wanked design as well.
>>
>>The other URLs pointing to clever usage of this were OK, but I think
>>there's something seriously wrong with using external OTAs to allow
>>voltage control of something like this. The integrators on the chip
>>should have been made of OTAs, not opamps, IMHO. That would have been
>>far more useful than what they did. After all, a SVF - VOLTAGE
>>CONTROLLED, can be made out of a single dual OTA IC. And if I want to
>>mess with unusual designs, I'll happily build the René Schmitz 4007 VC
>>state variable filter. I fail to see anything superior about this IC
>>other than the matched 1000pf caps (which are too large IMHO and you're
>
>>stuck with them). And I think that there are ways we can match caps to
>
>>make a better OTA based VC-SVF.
>>
>>Just my $.02 worth of pure opinion.
>>
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>>Colin Hinz <asfi at eol.ca> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Tim Escobedo wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.speakjet.com
>>>>
>>>> Might be useful for sone nice effects.
>>>
>>>Who are these people? And why did they let such a wanker design their
>>>website?
>>>
>>>Okay, I don't really expect an answer to the second question, though
>>>neither of their news items display anything except the headline. Oh
>>>well, I'm sure they've got a very good reason for doing it this way.
>>>
>>>The company's main website is much closer to being wank-free, luckily:
>>>
>>>http://www.magnevation.com/
>>>
>>>I do wonder what's in the guts of the SpeakJet -- it's not like a few
>>>guys working in an industrial park in Alabama can suddenly build a fab
>
>>>to start churning out mixed-signal ASICs..........and as they're
>>>really clear about providing an entirely American-made product (and I
>>>don't have any problem with "buy domestic" campaigns, as we could use
>>>a bit of that up here), so that implies a fab in the USA.
>>>
>>>Looks like quite an interesting chip. If I thought there'd be any
>>>chance I'd get around to doing something with them in my lifetime, I'd
>
>>>buy a few. But first I'd better build something permanent with my pair
>
>>>of SN76477s......
>>>
>>>- Colin Hinz
>>> Toronto, Canada
>>>
>>>
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>- What good are laws that only lawyers understand?
>- The media's credibility should always be questioned.
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>- Governments do nothing well, save collect taxes.
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- Where merit is not rewarded, excellence fades.
- Hydrogen is pointless without solar.
- What good are laws that only lawyers understand?
- The media's credibility should always be questioned.
- The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.
- Governments do nothing well, save collect taxes.
-- Scott Gravenhorst | LegoManiac / Lego Trains / RIS 1.5
-- Linux Rex | RedWebMail by RedStarWare
-- FatMan: home1.gte.net/res0658s/FatMan/
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