Buggy Whips [was]Re: [sdiy] Should I repair my Fostex, or should I go HD recording?

[rkmoore at memphis.edu]

I'm interested in sampling technique and sound perception, so I've 
been following these posts.  In all fairness, any time you play a 
piano that's not in a really good anechoic chamber there will be some 
room reverberation.  Playing the samples back without the normal 
reverb that we're used to hearing all of the time will make anything 
sound less natural.  Anyone that's been in an anechoic chamber knows 
that it's much different than even being in a open field.  Even 
playing a piano in an absorbent wall practice room does not eliminate 
the reverberant charateristics of the room.  

My biggest problems with using sampled pianos have been controller and 
programming issues.  Most weighted actions that I have played are not 
very good (I'm not terribly impressed with the Roland or Fatar actions 
that are most common).  Also, programming velocity curves and matching 
them to characteristics of the controller seems to be tricky.  The 
dynamics are usually unnaturally wide or too narrow to be convincing.  


Richard Moore 

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Wentk <richard at skydancer.com>
Date: Friday, December 31, 2004 11:33 am
Subject: Re: Buggy Whips [was]Re: [sdiy] Should I repair my Fostex, 
or  should I go HD recording?

> At 06:02 31/12/2004, Kenneth Elhardt wrote:
> >This is nit-picking.  Each sampled note already has coupled 
> string vibration
> >within it do to the sustain pedal held down.
> 
> It's not nit-picking. If you don't understand the distinction and 
> can't 
> hear it, that's fine. Don't assume that no one else can though.
> 
> > >>I've tried all the recent gigasampled pianos and they can all 
> be described
> >in one word: crap. They're fine buried in a mix with a ton of 
> other stuff
> >happening, but they sound like plastic plinky shite when played 
> naked.<<>
> >I'm beginning to think you're trying all of them dry.
> 
> No more dry than a real piano.
> 
> Reverb is the modified starch of recording - you can use it to 
> fill out 
> anything, but it tastes of nothing.
> 
> A good acoustic piano simulation - and I know of at least one 
> research 
> project that qualifies - doesn't need added reverb.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>