[sdiy] 60s organ sound
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Fri Dec 10 02:13:06 CET 2004
In a message dated 12/9/04 2:39:08 PM, torpedo at demadrid.com writes:
<< What I mean is, what sort of waveforms did they use in the oscillators?
What shape does the vibrato waveform have? which filters should be used?... >>
Most of them start with square waves and run those through fixed-frequency
lowpass filters to get a sort of sine wave-like sound. It's that Sine-like
sound that you hear. However, some of them start with sine waves -- that's the
exception rather than the rule, though.
Filtered squares (without any filter resonance) will get you halfway there.
If you have the ability to make sines or triangles on your synth, then those
waves can also be useful.
Keep in mind that all organ sounds are made up of multiple harmonics that are
mixed together -- the drawbars on a Hammond organ are actually a little
9-channel mixer. The Vox Jaguar and Continental also had drawbars with several
harmonics that could be mixed. The first four or five drawbars on the Vox gave
you the first through fourth harmonics (sine-ish waves), and the last drawbar
was a premix of the higher harmonics, which could be added to give the organ
its characteristic edge (think of the organ solo in the Doors "Light My Fire",
which really displays that classic Vox sound beautifully. And no, the original
studio recording of Light My Fire was not played on the Gibson organ -- it
was definitely the Vox Continental...)
It's hard to get a true combo organ sound with just two VCO's -- it works
much better with three or four, but you can get close if you work at it. Try
tuning your two VCO's two octave apart (and sync them if you can). If your synth
has a suboctave function (like the Roland SH-101), then those suboctaves can
be very useful for emulating combo organ sounds. Indeed, that's exactly how
real combo organs generate all of their notes except for the very highest
harmonics, by using divide-down circuits (same as a typical suboctave circuit on a
synth). Make sure your VCA envelpoe is set to the simple "organ envelope"
shape (fast attack, no decay, full sustain, no release). Don't use any filter
envelope modulation, period.
The Farfisa organs have a characteristically more "reedy" sound than the Vox,
mostly because they don't filter the initial square waves as much as in the
Vox organs. As a result, the Farfisas sound a little more buzzy and edgy than
the Voxes. They're both great sounds, though. If you want to emulate the
Farfisa sound, try using square waves and leave the filter a bit more open.
Also, you can layer a second VCO tuned an octave and a fifth higher than the first
VCO to get the classic buzzy Farfisa sound. The Voxes had that fifth too
(the third harmonic), but they don't bring it in as strong, and it's more
filtered, so it's smoother sound.
One more thing, if you can sync your oscilators, you should do so. If you
don't sync them, the drift and phasing between the VCO's will make it sound more
like a synth and less like an organ (organs of this type have all of their
partials in phase with each other at all times).
The vibrato oscillators in combo organs were almost always sine waves. A
little vibrato goes a long way -- get the sound you want from the VCO's and
filters before you start adding vibrato, because it's not cheesy wide vibrato that
made combo organs so cool -- it was their basic tone and waveshapes (I don't
think Ray Manzerek ever once used vibrato on anything he ever recorded with the
Doors; he just liked that plaintive, straight, very electronic sound). A
triangle LFO will work 95% as well as a sine LFO for this purpose. Good luck!
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