[sdiy] The extreme low cost of audio gear

[karl dalen]

 --- Czech Martin <Martin.Czech at Micronas.com> skrev: 
> Yes, wages tend to go up, but it can take a long time, because
> there are 1000 Million workers in the back which would like to
> do the job for half of the current wage.
> 
> The enormous population is something which should not be underestimated.
> Gives some inertia.
> At the same time the population density in Europe (can´t tell how it is in
> the
> Americas) is actually going down ( if no immigration is taking place).
> 
> In my old university the rate of newcomers for EE has fallen to 1/3!!
> All the others just can´t be lawyers or economics guys.

This is a common thing across europe, every engineering uni have had
a major drop in EE, most blame the IT bubble for that i suppose!
 
> I´d say: until a big collapse will happen in the west, this means
> good times for the old farts (em, when do you start beeing such?).

Well you are 40, then you have been a fart for at least 12-14 years!

> People who really know what is going on inside semiconductors are getting
> rare,
> because of population statistics and all this fancy VHDL/Verilog/RTL 
> methods.
> I mean, these methods are fine, until the chip is not working as supposed.
 
> I´m about 40 now, perhaps they beg me NOT to leave the company when I´m 60.

12 specialiced Chinese enginers who collectively works for 1/4
of your sallary will have replaced you when you are 55!!

Best regards
KD :-)
 
> m.c.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rude 66 [mailto:r.lekx at chello.nl]
> Sent: 31 August 2004 11:03
> To: Czech Martin; R. D. Davis; karl dalen
> Cc: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] The extreme low cost of audio gear
> 
> 
> 
> 
> nah.. this is only a temporary problem. in these so called 'low wage
> countries' the wages go up as soon as things are going well.
> if there's no way you can compete as a country with cheap labour from
> something like, say, china, you'll have to do something else. specialize.
> 
> i do second the quality issue, though.. it's one of my main problems with
> mixers like behringers etc. you know where else you really see that? sound
> cards. i'm testing a new firewire card here, and the 1st thing i noticed
> were the in and outs were not tied to the box with a nut, but are only
> soldered on the board for support. and it's not the only one.
> 
> it's one of the reasons i love older gear. the build quality is often
> fenomenal compared to today..
> 
> r./
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Czech Martin" <Martin.Czech at Micronas.com>
> To: "R. D. Davis" <rdd at rddavis.org>; "karl dalen" <dalenkarl at yahoo.se>
> Cc: <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 10:19 AM
> Subject: RE: [sdiy] The extreme low cost of audio gear
> 
> 
> > >Most likely, alas... putting more people in Europe and the U.S. out of
> > >work, and making our countries more dependent on so-called developing
> > >countries---talk about threats to national security!
> >
> > I second that. Almost slave work is going to eat the "low brain activity"
> > jobs away ibn the west.
> >
> > But it will not stop there. My visit to the semiconductor manufacturing
> > sites in Taiwan and Korea was a most frigthening experience, the
> technology gap
> > is almost closed!
> >
> > And by numbers they are by far the best sellers on the world wide market
> today.
> > No good news if you have children.
> >
> > m.c.
> >
> 
> 
>  

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