[sdiy] PIC / Atmel Programmers (usb)

Leif leifcr at hekta.org
Thu May 29 02:11:33 CEST 2003


for usb...

check
http://www.ftdichip.com

easy to implement with any microcontroller, processor, fpga...or whatever 
you are using that can use an external bus... they both have serial and 
fifo parallel chips...going to use these chips in some projects that are on 
my mind...

Also recommend to all :
check www.usb-instruments.com
cheap usb instruments that are pretty nice. Ordered that ANT8 logic 
analyzer... $200 for a 8 channel logic analyzer... gotta love that price.

cheers,
Leif

At 13:45 28.05.2003 +0200, bschiett wrote:
>it's true, the STK500 is a lot of bang for the buck.
>
>unfortunately, there is no AVR I know of that comes with USB, so I guess I'll
>have to use something else in the future as I'd really like to learn more 
>about
>USB.
>
>there are all sorts of ICs that interface to the AVR and that handle the USB,
>but then you don't have control over a lot of things happening on the USB 
>side,
>you have to install some weird fake COM port driver for example.
>
>Atmel does have USB chips, but they are way too advanced, they act as a 
>USB hub
>for example, they are hard to get, etc etc. last time I was in contact with
>Atmel they were still working on the development tools :(
>
>the worst thing for me really is that almost no distributor has parts in 
>stock,
>and they expect you to order 500 of them. Digikey is an exception, but if you
>don't live in the UK or US you end up with customs charges and taxes.
>
>Quoting Wayne Dubois <wdubois11 at earthlink.net>:
>
> > I'd like to second the vote for the STK500.  I've been using one for awhile
> > to learn the AVR micro (there's one sitting beside my mouse pad as I write
> > this) and, for it's price, it's a dream.  Not only does it run/program 98%
> > of the AVR micro's out there, it's so configurable as to be mind-boggling.
> > Like the PIC, Atmel gives away the development tools and environment (you
> > get them on CD with the STK500 or download them from the Atmel website).
> > Unlike the PIC however, there is a *very* nice FREE (as in free beer) C
> > compiler for the AVR available, along with a very nice library.
> >
> > Should you wish to pursue the AVR, the 1st place to check out (perhaps even
> > before the Atmel site) is: http://www.avrfreaks.com.  They've got all sorts
> > of info/tools/forums available, including the latest gcc compiler/toolset.
> >
> > You might even see some people you know, eh Mr. Maddox? <chuckle>
> >
> >  - w
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Maddox" <P.Maddox at signal.qinetiq.com>
> > To: <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [sdiy] PIC / Atmel Programmers
> >
> >
> > > Tim,
> > >
> > > dont know about the PIC stuff, but you can pick up an STK500 for the 
> Atmel
> > > for less than $100 this has programmer/interfaces chips and a few other
> > > things. though the programmer is built on the board..
> > > If you *JUST* want a programmer look for the Atmel ATAVRISP, its a serial
> > > ISP cable and can be had for around $50.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > > Think I'm gonna make the plunge and buy a PIC programmer. I'm also
> > > thinking
> > > > of getting into the ATMEL micros too (these seem to be more popular
> > > amongst
> > > > the DIY crowd). I'm looking for suggestions for what hardware and
> > software
> > > I
> > > > need to get started. Needs to be CHEAP of course. I believe I've seen
> > info
> > > > on a PICALL programmer that will program PICs and ATMEL stuff and 
> can be
> > > had
> > > > for less than $100US. Has anybody used this setup? As always, thanks in
> > > > advance for your advice and insights.
> > > >
> > > > Tim Servo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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