[sdiy] Easy transformer question
Ken Stone
sasami at hotkey.net.au
Tue Mar 11 00:06:39 CET 2003
Of course, you can take the "UBER" approach, and use four unselected
germanium diodes, and whatever signal transformers you have to hand, as long
as they "more or less" match. I did this back as my first DIY synth module,
and found that the missmatches actually colored the signal somewhat, though
depending on how you think, this can be a good thing. It is a very easy
circuit to get going.
Ken
>I've toyed arround with such circuits a while ago:
>
>At first, the real ring modulator circuit comes from
>radio circuits, the useage of coils and transformers
>is very common there, and due to the narrow bandwith
>and high frequency it is easy to wind your own.
>
>The schematic you mentioned has only two transformers,
>the ones for the "audio" path.
>
>The transformer ring modulator (real ringmodulator) circuit
>lives from diode bridge biasing. That's why you need at least
>two transformers with a center tap. Almost always these
>taps are built using two windings in series, that's why
>you see four wires.
>Real ring modulators ofen have a third transformer in order
>to drive the bridge. But this can be circumvented
>by electronic means. However, the third transformer will enable
>you to have symmetric wiring and it will prevent DC problems.
>
>Sometimes there is no indication of winding polarity.
>So you have a 50% chance of not functional circuit.
>Better measure: drive the transformer primary with some (safe!)
>AC voltage (I assume it is a 1:2 or 1:4 or so type).
>Now connect the two secondary coils in series.
>You should be able to measure a substantial AC voltage
>on the secondary side, just as transformer ratio says.
>If the voltage is very very small, the two secondary
>coils are out of phase, try the other connection possibility.
>
>Diodes: Ge diodes are expensive and hard to get.
>It makes some difference in sound.
>Matched quadruples of diodes are near to impossible to get.
>The bridge offset depends on the diodes.
>I.e. they should be all the same and thermally coupled.
>Perhaps get a lot (a belt) of diodes and try to measure
>diode voltage at two different currents (forward of course).
>You can also add some resistance to each diode.
>
>If the third transformer is replaced by electronic means,
>there is a possibility to add DC voltage in order to cancel
>feedthrough. However, feedthrough will vary with temperature
>and aging, so a panel knob would be a good idea for that.
>
>
>Of course you need good audio transformers.
>These are not cheap. But this is audio application,
>not RF.
>The problem is often in the low end. Farnell seems to carry
>such items, with Flow ~ 40Hz or so. I got three of them.
>Below that you'll get a lot of distortion and signal loss.
>
>If the three transformer circuit is used, the modulator can of course
>not go to DC.
>
>m.c.
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stephen Begin [mailto:trypannon at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Samstag, 8. März 2003 00:11
>To: synth
>Subject: [sdiy] Easy transformer question
>
>
>I finally got around to ordering the parts for a passive ring modulator, and
>I remember somebody told me that the transformer they'd seen used was mouser
># 42tl028. http://www.mouser.com//catalog/specsheets/164249.pdf
>
>The circuit (http://www.synthfool.com/ringmod.html) shows two connections on
>one side of the transformer and three on the other, but this transformer has
>three connections on one side and four on the other, and I've been
>unsuccessful in my search for some sort of transformer 101 type pages.
>Basically what it boils down to is...do i only use two pins on the four pin
>side, or do I pair some of the pins together, or what?
>
>Thanks,
>Steve
>
>
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