[sdiy] BBD Chips

[René Schmitz]

Hi Scott,

Right they are. The thing is you have to get rid of the HF before you 
mix the signals.

Btw, what Roman describes is infact what the original tapedeck based 
flanging did. (4 machines, one feeds the sound, one records it, and two 
  three head machines in parallel, to get the delays. Modulated manually 
by slowing down the reels.) Often referred to as through zero flanging 
on this list.

Cheers,
  René

Scott Stites wrote:
> But wait - don't ensemble choruses by nature have the BBD clocks 'crossing'
> themselves in the frequency domain?  Now I'm confused.....
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> Subject: Re: Re: [sdiy] BBD Chips
> From: Roman <modular at go2.pl>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:03:06 +0100
> To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
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> I know at least one person who'd hate me for saying this, but...
> What if we use 2 BBDs and 2 clocks. When one frequency rises, second drops. When
> frequencies are equal, there's no delay between BBD outputs, so flanging can
> begin at zero delay, or go back and forth into positive and negative delay. As
> long as there's no original signal added, and everything passes thru BBDs,
> there's no minimum time limit.
> Only twice the noise...
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> Roman
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> Od: Scott Stites <scottnoanh at peoplepc.com>
> Do: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> Data: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:39:20 -0700 (PDT)
> Temat: Re: [sdiy] BBD Chips
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>>I've gotten very good results both for chorus and flanging using the MN3207.  The
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>>spec sheet gives a 200 kHz max clock rate for a minimum delay time of 2.56 ms,
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>>which is in the heart of flanging territory.  Seems I've overclocked the chip too
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>>for even better results with no problem, but I'm at work now and can't remember
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>>the particulars.  Looking at various manufacturer schematics for flangers,
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>>choruses and ensemble choruses, it seems they routinely overclocked BBD's.  Maybe
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>>Harry mesmerised the manufacturers and overclocking *really* destroys them =0). 
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>>The MN3102 clock is definitely worth the few extra bucks.  It rather
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>>uncomplicates things, and the waveshaping in it helps to ensure you don't have
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>>any clock overlap.  Using that, the addition of a couple of transistors makes a
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>>nice logrithmic current sink for flanging.
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>>Cheers,
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>>Scott
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