[sdiy] Temperature Compensated VCO attempt - help?

[patchell]

    Good point.  That might explain where the 400 ppm is coming from.  I will have
to look into that some more.  Sort of glad you brought that up.  I was planning on
doing another prototype run of VCO boards...I might have to come up with a few more
options before I send out again...

Scott Bernardi wrote:

> Those are pretty good specs, I'll look into it.
> One other question. You derive your temperature dependent current from the
> exponential transistor Vbe directly, rather from a delta-Vbe.  Doesn't that then
> include the temperature dependence of the transistor saturation current also
> (doubles every 10 degrees)?
>
> patchell wrote:
>
> >     From what I saw on your schematic, everything looks basically OK...the
> > circuit you are using is a bit different from the one I considered to be
> > Bogus...(the one I was using came from an EDN design Ideas collum...it
> > looked good, but it had a tendency to latch up under certain conditions).
> >
> >     Just a couple of comments from what I have learned.  Using the OTA
> > linerizing diodes will only give you about 0.4% linearity.  I can't remember
> > what the linearity of the circuit I am using is exactly, but I seem to
> > recall that it is around 0.1%...or there abouts...can't remember where I got
> > the circuit, but somebody on this list posted a link to it.  I like it also
> > because it uses fewer parts.  But the one test I did I was getting +/- 2
> > cents over 8 octaves and the scale drift was about 400ppm/C (using an
> > "ASM-1" osc core)
> >
> > Scott Bernardi wrote:
> >
> > > I've made an attempt at an electronically temperature compensated
> > > exponential generator and VCO. I built it into a thru-zero FM VCO based
> > > on an Electronotes design. The VCO works, but the exponential generator
> > > suffers from linearity problems. I can tune it to a nice 1v/octave
> > > response using my VCO tuner
> > > (http://home.attbi.com/~sbernardi/elec/og2/vco_tuner.html) at 0v CV, but
> > > as soon as I deviate from that either higher or lower in frequency, the
> > > scaling is off.
> > > I've got a pretty detailed theory of operation and schematic at
> > > http://home.attbi.com/~sbernardi/elec/og2/tempcomp_vco_theory.htm.
> > > Jim (Patchell), I was especially interested in your temp compensated
> > > VCO, and notice you changed the circuit because the previous one was
> > > "bogus".  I believe on your previous circuit you were using a delta Vbe
> > > bandgap reference like mine - was that giving you problems? I also
> > > notice you are using a different configuration for your multiplier OTA
> > > that "linearizes" it.  I suspect it might be my OTA multiplier that's
> > > causing the problems.
> > > Anybody care to comment?
> >
> > --
> >  -Jim
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