[sdiy] Re: diodes/LDR

[Theo]

Hi Dan,
I didn't attempt to be "snippy" either.
Both suggestions "reverse engineer" and "ask Bob" where serious.
Forexample I became a Big Briar teremin schematic just by asking.
However as Harry explained, reverse engineering is probably the only way to
get your hands on Moogerfooger schematics.

Theo


From: harrybissell <harrybissell at prodigy.net>


> Hi Dan...
>
> I wasn't really attempting to be 'snippy'... just playful.
> I might even reverse engineer one just for the fun of it.
>
> The points were (as I saw them) that the MoogerFooger is
> a current product for Big Briar and if they wanted to
> post schematics it would be their business.
>
> Most of the effect schematics on the web have been there for
> many years, are often the result OF reverse-engineering and are
> not scans of manufacturer's documents (unless they are long
> out-of-business).  Even then, a scan of a schematic used without
> permission violates copyright laws.
>
> The comment (not mine) to "Ask Bob" was not flippant at all. Bob
> Moog HAS been known to offer information when asked.  He gave me
> permission to make the PV-1 pitch to voltage converter based on his
> design.  All he asked was that the board have the text "Based on Etherwave
> Pitch to Voltage converter by Bob Moog, used with permission" and that I
> send him a unit to play with. So I did.
>
> I think that Bob recognised that the product would not be commercially
viable...
>
> based on his knowledge of the Theremin market. He was actually doing
everyone a
> favor by giving permission... maybe some folks might even buy a theremin
to go
> with the converter...
>
> The MoogerFoogers are a different story... posting schematics would
probably
> not enhance the sale of $300 units (expensive for you and me both....).
But I
> think
> the advice given (in a light-hearted way) is really valid.  Reverse
Engineering
> is a
> protected practice (its NOT illegal)... and the community would benefit
from the
>
> information.
>
> Its also possible that the information is "Trade Secret" (as opposed to
> patented)
> in which case there is no way that you will be given a schematic by Big
Briar...
>
> as trade secret protection implies that the only way you could have gotten
the
> information is by theft.
>
> Again, sorry if I came off as snippy. Not my intention at all....
>
> H^) harry
>
> dan g+ wrote:
>
> > p.s. it's impressive that you can be so snippy about the question when
i've
> > found just about every other stomp box schematic i'd want on the web.
> > including moog schematics.
> >
> > it's not like it would actually hurt their buisness if some hobbyists
had
> > scanned them somewhere.
> >
> > maybe you don't get it, but i don't have 300 bucks, yet do have an
> > insatiable quest for knowledge.
> >
> > once again, thanks.
> >
> > dan
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "harrybissell" <harrybissell at prodigy.net>
> > To: "Theo" <t.hogers at home.nl>
> > Cc: "dan g+" <streamofstudio at flashmail.com>; "Synth-DIY list"
> > <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sdiy] Re: diodes/LDR
> >
> > > 4) Buy ME the moogerfooger and I'll reverse engineer it for you.  Then
you
> > can
> > > post the schematic on the web... or keep it a secret for yourself
(I'll
> > never
> > > tell)
> > >
> > > of course I get to keep the fooger....    ;^P
> > >
> > > H^) harry
> > >
> > > Theo wrote:
> > >
> > > > 1) Get a job with Big Briar.
> > > > 2) Ask Bob, you never know.
> > > > 3) Buy the moogefooger you want the schematic from and reverse
> > engenieer.
> > > >
> > > > Theo
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: dan g+ <streamofstudio at flashmail.com>
> > > > To: Synth-DIY list <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:44 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [sdiy] Re: diodes/LDR
> > > >
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > my name's dan. I just joined this list and have all ready learned
> > quite a
> > > > > few things. A wonderful resource it is.
> > > > > So right now i have what i imagine to be a longshot question.. but
> > that's
> > > > > based on google searches and the lack of success there in.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have or know of a place to get MOOGERFOOGER
schematics?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks a bunch
> > > > > dan
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>