Speaking of timbral modulators and waveshapers, go to this link for an mp3 of Jim Patchell's Diode Waveform Shaper PCB/module being used as a timbre modulator. http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com/motm/dws_mp3.html John Loffink jloffink at austin.rr.com The Microtonal Synthesis Web site http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com/