[sdiy] Re: linear FM

Jay Schwichtenberg jays at aracnet.com
Thu Feb 6 22:18:16 CET 2003


Barry & Magnus,

I know of two commercial products.

There was: 'the nonesuch guide to electronic music' by Paul Beaver and
Bernard Krause, 1968. This a 2 LP set with a 16 page book. It covers a
number of individual elements (waveforms, tunings, noise, filters,
envelopes...) all done on a Moog System III. It also has a composition which
it details some of the recording. Some of the old timers may remember Beaver
and Krause who turned out a few albums around late 60's early 70's. Paul
Beaver has passed away but Bernie Krause has done a few recordings and is
into sound archival.

Somewhere along the line Wendy Carlos has turned out a simular recording
called: 'Secrets Of Synthesis'. From her WEB site it is supposedly going to
be released late 2002/early 2003.

Good music making to one and all. That includes us non-musicians too.
Jay

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> [mailto:owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl]On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:42 PM
> To: Barry.L.Klein at wdc.com
> Cc: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] Re: linear FM
>
>
> From: "Barry Klein" <Barry.L.Klein at wdc.com>
> Subject: RE: [sdiy] Re: linear FM
> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:04:05 -0800
>
> Dear Barry,
>
> > It's kinda funny that you rarely see discussed how people program their
> > modulars - what mods or new modules they'd like to see, and how
> some unique
> > module features are used.  Peter's short discussion on sequencers was
> > enlightening for many of us I bet.  I'd like to see more of this kind of
> > thing.
> >
> > Back in the EN days Bernie had the "EN Tape" thing going where we would
> > either buy or pass on to others one at a time a 1/4" reel to
> reel tape of
> > new design sounds etc.  Now with the Internet, MP3 files make this an
> > instant sharing and education process.  Just want to encourage
> those of you
> > to keep up sharing these sound samples on your sites!
>
> I agree with you on this. I actually think there's a educational
> gap on synths
> around. In one corner you can learn all kinds of basic stuff on
> what this and
> that module do, in the technical sense, and there is rarely any
> samples except
> from a few manufactures demo's (don't bother to plug the links in
> here, I'm not
> going there anyway). Then in the other end you find cute
> freak-show demos where
> people tries to show just how good they are at the craftmanship,
> but does not
> tell what actually happends. Right there inbetween there is
> basically nothing,
> nada, big void, all the black mass of the universe will not fill
> it up (OK, I'm
> overdoing it for the effect).
>
> There's no really great place actually to learn how to achieve
> this or that
> sound or effect, how to make the modules interact to get this or
> that sound and
> what to think of. I've must admitt - I am terrible in patching up
> sounds, I
> have just never "GOT IT" in a sense of hearing a sound in my head
> and transform
> that into a patch. I can get some stuff going, and I love the work on some
> experimental patching, but I fail on converting that to a broader set of
> sounds. This greatly discourage me from going futher on other aspects of
> musicmaking since I fail to get the sounds I need for a certain set of
> feelings. Nowdays I don't have the time I used to for sitting and
> doing lame
> attempts in a trial and error fashion. I've got too much stress
> in my life to
> do that. Probably this is the reason I concentrate on the
> functional aspects of
> these thingies, since there I had the naive thought that I could
> grasp some of
> it at least... still doesn't know if I succseeded in fooling
> anyone on that
> one.
>
> > Many of us AREN'T musicians so we don't know what the musicians
> really want
> > in the designs.  But remember, Leo Fender did pretty well
> without being a
> > musician - he listened to input from them.
>
> Don't forget Bob Moog who openly admitts not being much of a musician but
> rather a music instrument builder. His ability to listen to
> users/customers
> need and act on it is what is part of his secret, besides for
> being a generally
> nice fellow indeed.
>
> Cheers,
> Magnus
>
>




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