[sdiy] Temperature Compensated VCO attempt - help?

Scott Bernardi sbernardi at attbi.com
Sun Feb 2 01:27:03 CET 2003


I'll take 'em!

patchell wrote:

>     I got enough data now that I could make a calculation, although, before I will
> make any claims, I still need more data, but, right now, I came up with 45ppM/C for
> the scale drift.  Now, if past experience is any indicator, this number will jump
> around a bit as I collect more data, however, this is an oder of magnitude better
> (old reading for this same VCO was 400ppM/C) than any data I have ever collected
> for a VCO.  I guess if this ends up working out OK, I'll have to send you some
> boards Scott.
>
> Scott Bernardi wrote:
>
> > Cool, let me know the results.
> > I did some computer simulations of the circuit, and it seemed to work well.
> > Then I ran some temperature variations, and it didn't stay constant at all. But
> > then I realized the simplified LM13700 model I downloaded from National ignored
> > temperature effects!
> > I'm going to retrofit my thru-zero FM VCO. It will look weird, but that's DIY.
> >
> > patchell wrote:
> >
> > >     Scott, tomorrow morning I should be ready to test a slightly modified
> > > version of your circuit (basically your temp sensor in what I already had).
> > > Got it all wired up and working, but, I don't see so good in artificial
> > > light anymore...so first thing in the morning.  Also have my blue ice
> > > freezing in the freezer...gonna give this thing a wide range of temps.
> > >
> > > Scott Bernardi wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've made an attempt at an electronically temperature compensated
> > > > exponential generator and VCO. I built it into a thru-zero FM VCO based
> > > > on an Electronotes design. The VCO works, but the exponential generator
> > > > suffers from linearity problems. I can tune it to a nice 1v/octave
> > > > response using my VCO tuner
> > > > (http://home.attbi.com/~sbernardi/elec/og2/vco_tuner.html) at 0v CV, but
> > > > as soon as I deviate from that either higher or lower in frequency, the
> > > > scaling is off.
> > > > I've got a pretty detailed theory of operation and schematic at
> > > > http://home.attbi.com/~sbernardi/elec/og2/tempcomp_vco_theory.htm.
> > > > Jim (Patchell), I was especially interested in your temp compensated
> > > > VCO, and notice you changed the circuit because the previous one was
> > > > "bogus".  I believe on your previous circuit you were using a delta Vbe
> > > > bandgap reference like mine - was that giving you problems? I also
> > > > notice you are using a different configuration for your multiplier OTA
> > > > that "linearizes" it.  I suspect it might be my OTA multiplier that's
> > > > causing the problems.
> > > > Anybody care to comment?
> > >
> > > --
> > >  -Jim
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