[sdiy] The RIAA Blows.... (fwd)

Theo t.hogers at home.nl
Mon Jun 24 02:25:53 CEST 2002

Legal or illegal? thing is the laws are IMHO a "bit strange" and give life
"parasites" like BUMA, RIAA and the like who have to collect the money
and after deduction of expenses pay some of what is collected to the
But most importantly of all, make sure there is a constant cash flow to the
major labels.

Exposure is what sells records. Wanabe played on the radio? Ok PAY for it.
No I am not nuts, it is how it works now too.
You need rather large promotion budgets to get airplay on major stations,
not accessible to the small guy.
Remember radio is business, no one cares about the music or its artistic
RIAA & associated laws are there to make sure it stays business and strictly
What's left for the independent artists are the local stations where the DJ
plays you for a bottle of scotch.

A more transparent pay to get played system would open the marked up for
small independent players, both artists and radio stations.
The only real change is the stations don't have to pay the riaa
(buma/whatever) fees.
Radio stations that target a public that does not want to listen to the
mainstream all the time will not be strangled by RIAA&friends and be able to
get their place in the market.
Who should pay what for exposure is up to the stations.

To sum it up.
The big labels/commercial artists should PAY for the commercials (err, sorry
music) that are on the air all the time.
Artist can make their share from selling CDs or playing live.
Radio exposure it there to HELP them with selling or getting pp to the
Stations should set their own fees for airplay, starting at $zero.

Just a thought,

BTW 1) The major label acts score hits because the general public recognizes
the artistic merits of those productions and demand to hear those
productions on the radio.
BTW 2) Eminem is a perfect example of a underground artist who got
recognized by the general public.
BTW 3) The above are facts because the majors labels say so.
BTW 4) I'll stop ranting now and see my therapist to find what personal
feelings made me to suggest those unfair things.

From: Rude 66 <r.lekx at chello.nl>

> and how exactly are they going to check on all this? even here in our
> country of holland it all works for normal radiostations by either
> from the major stations, or on local level they randomly choose stations
> ask their playlists, on which they base the money given to artists.
> there already is tons of music channels out there just broadcasting stuff
> all day and night on the net. unless they employ 100.000 people who sit
> with headphones and pen/paper, or make some intelligent software that can
> recognize songs, it sounds to me like one of those laws that is in reality
> impossible to enforce.
> i had my own show for years. local amsterdam radio. i recorded it at home,
> and put the ra-files of the show online.
> otherwise just beat them at their own game.. if all indies join the riaa,
> they also can influence the way it's run. most of 'my' labels used to be
> 'illegal' in the way all the records were pressed in eastern europe and
> distributed directly..but now it's all legal, and i do get money from
> played abroad, etc.
> r./
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Batz Goodfortune" <batzman at all-electric.com>
> To: "Moho Disco" <moho at mohodisco.com>; "Atom 'Smasher'"
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> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 10:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [sdiy] The RIAA Blows.... (fwd)
> > Y-ellow Lava 'n' crew.
> >
> > At 11:39 AM 6/23/02 -0700, Moho Disco wrote:
> >
> > >I got the impression that if you are an internet radio station at all,
> and
> > >unless you have specific written permission from the artists you use,
> > >must pay royalties to the RIAA no matter whether you play big
> > >affiliates or not.  Essentially, paying the RIAA for playing
> > >who will not receive a dime of it.  Somebody please tell me I
> misunderstood
> > >that part.  I was hoping to submit some music to SomaFM and get it
> > >on there, and now that won't happen.  That's another way it has
> at
> > >least one independent.
> >
> > This is exactly right. Spot on the money. Summed up exactly. But dare I
> say
> > it, you're still thinking in the same mode as every clutz trying to make
> it
> > big in the music industry. The same old tired model that says I wanna do
> > just like the big acts do. I don't wanna insult another indy but snap
> > of it man. Do I really need to spell it out for you?
> >
> > Print yourself up a little contract and glue it to the CD. Hell, make it
> > part of your cover art if you like. Make the contract say basically. I
> give
> > this radio station permission to play my music and wipe their ass with
> > if they so desire. Etc etc.
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Because if the fit hits the shan big time and no-one can play anything,
> > they'll still be able to play yours! Yeah! If the broadcaster has an
> > inventory of 25,000 CDs but only 1000 of those have permission to play
> > built in, who's CDs do you think they're going to play?
> >
> > Now Imagine right, that every true indy did that. The bill get's passed
> > into law. No-one can play this major crap without having to fork over
> > of cash. Who gives a shit? The only CDs being broadcast are going to be
> the
> > indies. You reckon that might hurt the RIAA or what? Everyone send the
> > bastards a box of razor blades with a note saying. "When ever your ready
> > guys. Just across the jugular and try not to bleed on the carpet OK."
> >
> > I saw this happen here in the late 60s. The record companies got
> > and tried to extort royalties from the radio stations. So the radio
> > stations put pink tape or paper on all the records they couldn't play.
> > only the "Other stuff" got to air. Took about, oooo Maybe a month before
> > the record companies caved in. And the irony was that bands like the
> > Mixtures, who you wouldn't probably have ever noticed, were suddenly big
> > news. Now imagine what would happen if the RIAA put this shit in law and
> > couldn't back out of it even if they wanted to. Man! A truck load a
> > wouldn't be able to stop me laughing.
> >
> > But of course I don't expect any of this to actually happen. The Indies
> > won't wake up and the US courts will throw it out anyway. But you can
> > always be a good boy scout and be prepared. :)
> >
> > Be absolutely Icebox.
> >
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