[sdiy] Batz (rant)

harry harrybissell at prodigy.net
Thu Jun 13 06:02:51 CEST 2002

Hi Eric...

Hah... then you should see what we did with all the old

H^) harry

metasonix at earthlink.net wrote:

> >they were showing all this stuff going into land-fill or to be
> >scrapped for raw materials. Pallet loads of brand new monitors.  pile of
> >older IBM notebooks, at least P100s if not P266s, dumped in a pile out in
> >the rain and mud.
> Dear boy, you are now finding out the true evil of corporate megalopoly.
> Back in the 1920s, radio manufacturers found themselves competing against
> last year's old radio sets, which were far cheaper used than new.
> (Remember, a radio in 1925 cost the consumer $250--that was three month's
> wages.)
> The dealers and manufacturers became so incensed, they DEMANDED that
> consumers buying new radio sets had to turn their old sets in for "disposal".
> And once a year, many dealers would make BONFIRES out of the old radios.
> They invited the local press, even had barbeques--meat cooked over the
> flames of old RCA Radiolas. (Bet it made the meat taste tangier. Yum.)
> The manufacturers openly encouraged this, and even gave dealers rebates
> based on how many radio chassis they burned (or destroyed by other means).
> I have seen many old issues of the US magazine RADIO NEWS, in which they
> often reported on the latest "radio bonfire festival". Usually dealers in the
> East Coast and Midwest held the bonfires in November thru Christmas--
> right after the new models were introduced each September. You never hear
> antique radio collectors talk about this stuff, it's embarrassing, apparently.
> (Then came the Depression, and the US radio industry went from 250
> manufacturers to 17....
> Just substitute "personal computer" for "radio". Things really don't change.
> This is nothing, you should see all the stuff the big American
> national laboratories buy, then sell off the next year in their
> surplus auctions--without ever using it. They have to--their
> annual budgets are "use or lose". I've been to the
> Sandia and Los Alamos auctions. You see things like pallets of
> brand-new office furniture that had been left out in the weather.
> And those are not small auctions--imagine a 10-acre fenced lot,
> filled with pallets. Every month.
> In 1993 Los Alamos put out a complete CDC Cyber 135 supercomputer,
> with all manuals, software and peripherals. It used 100k ECL chips
> running way past their maximum ratings, pressed against cold-plates
> in which circulated freon refrigerant. They had just sawed off
> the cables going in and out, and thrown the cabinets onto pallets.
> The whole thing ended up selling to a surplus dealer for $2000.
> I saw this happen.
> >already bought and sold or the fact that kids are becoming more and more
> >exposed to Microsoft's Nemesis. It's funny to watch a corporate giant
> >dancing around like it's about to wet it self.
> You have no idea. There is a rumor that Gates is trying to get
> his congressman to introduce a bill that would make open-source
> software illegal for any government or commercial use.
> >my surprise when I discover that the few local recyclers who do this stuff,
> >are actually charging around new price for bits that were basically thrown
> >at them. Surely this is not how it should be. Why would I buy a recovered
> >monitor  for 250 when I could buy a brand new one for 260?
> Sad to say, this is not surprising. I have heard many times that Aussie
> businessmen are some of the world's most ruthless (and, imo, foolish).
> At Svetlana we had the same problem--the Australian customers
> were some of the worst--always screwing up paperwork, not paying bills,
> lying about receiving shipments (then demanding a replacement shipment),
> bitching about quality and prices, etc. etc.
> What is it, the isolation driving them nuts? Maybe the summer heat?
> Eating kangaroo burgers?
> I bet many list members have old PCs sitting around..........
> Just think, ship them to Batz in Australia, and you won't have
> to take the stuff to the local recycler or the landfill,
> only to have them turn you away....Batz will get "rid" of it for you...
> E. Barbour
> metasonix

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