[sdiy] harmonics & vibrato
Scott Evans, Gen Mgr
esresource at earthlink.net
Wed Dec 18 19:30:21 CET 2002
Richard,
I like your idea regarding the frequency shifter/LFO. I think this may
be a fun place to experiment. I am also in need of a frequency shifter
as well, so it will have to wait.
Scott
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Richard Wentk wrote:
> At 11:10 18/12/2002 +0000, Brendan wrote:
>
>> I suppose I wondered if there might be an area under/near the finger
>> that is
>> partially damped - somewhere between being fully stopped and freely
>> vibrating - and so any modes that have peaks in that area might be
>> reduced
>> in amplitude, changing the timbre if the shape of the finger pad changes.
>>
>> Having said that, only energy at frequencies at the very limits of human
>> hearing (and above those limits) have peaks this close to their nodes (in
>> the millimetre scale) so as interesting a thought as it may be, it
>> probably
>> just doesn't matter! :)
>
>
> No, I think it does. I've been thinking a lot about how real sounds are
> waaaay more complicated than we think they are.
>
> Like vibrato. Firstly real vibrato isn't a sine wave. It's going to be
> slightly randomised wrt both pitch and amplitude. And it probably won't
> be perfectly symmetric. And it will have a frequency curve that varies.
> Listen to a real cellist and you can hear that their vibrato often
> starts slow and then speeds up a little.
>
> Secondly I'm wondering how the speed of a moving finger compares with
> the speed of the displacement waves in a string that create the sound.
> If they're comparable, you're going to get harmonic non-linearities
> because the nodes won't have time to settle the way they would if a
> fixed obstacle were damping the string.
>
> Bottom line is you'll get interesting timbral variations that are richer
> than just a generic fixed LFO wobble. If I had a frequency shifter to
> hand (which I don't) I'd wonder about creating string vibrato with a
> slightly randomised LFO driving the frequency shift amount as well as
> VCO frequency.
>
> If anyone does have one to hand, I'd be interested to hear how the
> results compare with simple vibrato.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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