[sdiy] Filter Banks & CSound - electronotes

[harrybissell]

If we had a hall of fame... I'd nominate Bernie Hutchins
(along with Moog, Buchla, etc...)

For those who can spare the change (and who don't live in an
apartment - you don't want to move this stuff...) I'd recommend
the Electronotes "everything collection"... Its a gas to read the
articles form the early 70's when EVERYBODY was a newbie...
and maybe see some of our professor-emeritus from the list like
Terry Michals and Ian Fritz.

Nice to hang out with these folks here... wish I'd started back then.
Maybe I'd have a real life by now.... (not!)

H^) harry

Dave Halliday wrote:

> Although I do agree with you regarding the Jim Baen web site ( and Janis
> Ian's wonderful essay ), the ElectroNotes collection is still under
> Copyright laws.
>
> #1) - Look at it as a performance.  J.S.Bach's 'notes' are long out of
> copyright but if I were to sample a Glen Gould recording, I would need to
> make a payment to his estate.
>
> #2) - In his infrequent posts to another list, ( usually forwarded
> e-mails ), Bernie has expressly said that the work is copyrighted.
>
> #3) - The amount that he is charging for a copy is not much more than the
> basic cost of duplication.  He is not getting rich on this and by buying
> 'from the source' you add incentive for him to keep the library together for
> future experimenters.
>
> Imagine the amount of work that would be needed to compile this if one had
> to start over again from scratch...  How would you like it if someone
> started ripping-off chunks of your life's work claiming that it was FREE
> FREE FREE for ALL!!!
>
> </rant>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> > [mailto:owner-synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl]On Behalf Of J.D. McEachin
> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:43 AM
> > Cc: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
> > Subject: Re: [sdiy] Filter Banks & CSound
> >
> >
> > Someone wrote:
> >
> > > >> > I don't like to put up circuits that appeared in
> > Electronotes, since Bernie
> > > >> > is still selling back issues.
> >
> > As I've pointed out before, almost all of the ElectroNotes material has no
> > copyright.  The copyrights on most of the Preferred Circuits Collection
> > are invalid, in that the material was previously published without
> > copyright, and under the copyright law of the time it was not possible to
> > retroactively assert copyright.  Even if the material WAS copyrighted, you
> > are entitled to redraw the artwork and paraphrase the text, especially
> > since your website would be nonprofit / for teaching purposes only.  But
> > Bernie has been known to do websearches for EN material on occasion, so I
> > would have to speculate that if you mention EN or him by name you MAY be
> > faced with complaints to your ISP to remove the material, who will
> > probably force you to despite the fact that you've complied with copyright
> > law (it would take a lawyer to establish this, and it's easier for the ISP
> > to just give in to complaints).
> >
> > Here's a thought - mention the source and author in a graphic file rather
> > than raw text, so it doesn't show up on a search engine.  It wouldn't be
> > right to publish without this information, but putting it in text/html
> > would probably lead to problems.
> >
> > I know Bernie has his apologists, but the fact is, the material was
> > published in the public domain.  You can't argue ignorance, because some
> > authors, most notably Thomas Henry, DID choose to assert their copyright.
> > Whether you choose to honor the later change in heart is your decision,
> > the law is clear that you don't have to.
> >
> > What's sad to me is that, if the experiences of Jim Baen at www.baen.com
> > are any indication, putting the best of the EN material on the web would
> > probably increase sales of the printed back issues.  And it would help
> > DIYers.
> >
> > JDM
> >
> >
> >