[sdiy] Alex sings Geddy with formant envelope synthesis?
Marc Jordan
MJordan at SigmaTel.com
Thu Aug 22 20:06:24 CEST 2002
Yah, I've seen him sing backup before (plus he sang on his solo album) but
you could always tell it was him. This time it was definitely Geddy's
voice, though. I did a double-take. Double-takes are so cool :)
-----Original Message-----
From: j vallier [mailto:peff2cv at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 12:17 PM
To: MJordan at SigmaTel.com
Cc: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
Subject: Re: [sdiy] Alex sings Geddy with formant envelope synthesis?
Keep in mind that Alex has quite a high voice too. He's done occasional
backup vox during their whole career--when I saw them during moving pictures
tour there sure wasn't formant synthesis then!
>From: harry <harrybissell at prodigy.net>
>To: Marc Jordan <MJordan at SigmaTel.com>
>CC: "'synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl'" <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
>Subject: Re: [sdiy] Alex sings Geddy with formant envelope synthesis?
>Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 22:24:27 -0400
>
>Sure it wasn't the LSD ??? ;^P
>
>H^) harry
>
>"what did the deadhead say when his acid wore off ? What IS this awful
>music ?
>"
>
>Marc Jordan wrote:
>
> > I just saw Rush in Houston & San Antonio & noticed that Alex was singing
> > some backup vocals on the new Rush tunes. The cool thing was that I was
> > hearing Geddy's voice. I doubt that he was just lip syncing because
>they've
> > never been ashamed of or hid the fact that they trigger samples big time
> > live.
> >
> > I'm guessing that they were running his voice through a DSP box that
>applied
> > formant envelopes to approximate Geds vocal characteristics. Does
>anybody
> > know if this is being done in real-time these days? I took a synth class
>a
> > number of years ago and did some experiments with formant envelopes and
>you
> > would be surprised how good they work. Probably good enough for
>background
> > vocals in a loud-as-hell rock setting. I don't remember all the details
>of
> > the computational complexity: a little bit of off-line FFT analysis of
>Ged's
> > voice to build up the envelopes to store away, then live you'd have to
>FFT
> > short bits of Al's vocals, apply the envelopes, then convert back to the
> > time domain. Hardware is beefy enough these days to do it real-time I
> > imagine. Heck, it's probably really not that much of a MIPs hog.
> >
> > Marc Jordan
> > Embedded Audio Software
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>
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