[sdiy] breadboard

[tomg@efm]

This is important! If you can't build something that works
you will get frustrated and quit.

This is not exactly what Harry is talking about. It's point to
point, using terminal pins to connect external wires to the
board. It's an easy project that you can develop your
skills on.....it's a handful of noise.

http://people.atl.mediaone.net/efm3/therman.pdf
http://people.atl.mediaone.net/efm3/therman.mp3

It's not just for small things. You can develop larger stuff....

http://people.atl.mediaone.net/efm3/mini4.pdf
http://people.atl.mediaone.net/efm3/mini4.mp3

uhhh.... working , larger stuff of course...;-) Ahh the old
days....I had a really great junk box back then..

I totally disagree with Harry about "solderless breadboards"
and he knows it...;-) I hardly ever say you shouldn't listen
to Harry but you should think about a couple of point.

When you are new and your skills and budget are limited
you can collect a few parts and experiment on different stuff
until you feel confident that you can move it to perf board.
You can use the same parts over and over ...at no additional
cost. Once clipped and soldered it's hard to experiment with
different values not to mention pretty much unrecoverable.

You don't need to understand or use spice software, that so
far doesn't have audio output or working ota models (unless
you want to and can define them yourself) makes it fairly
useless for DIY beginners. If it gets hot or smokes you know
you've done something wrong with parts.....Spice is ok once
you know what you're doing....nothing beats real parts.. ever.

Tom



> Yes thanks. Thats it all rightey !!!
>
> H^) harry  (no camera... so sad)
>
> patchell wrote:
>
> > http://www.oldcrows.net/~patchell/archives/vcf.html
> >
> >     This is probably pretty close to what Harry is talking about.  It was built
with
> > T-42 terminals on a Vector 4.5 x 6.5 inch board with edge connector fingers.
> >
> >     I have build lots of stuff using the technique; here is another rather large
> > one, but I never finished it...
> >
> > http://www.silcom.com/~patchell/pictures/monosynth.jpg
> >
> > alex dickey wrote:
> >
> > > > I use unclad perf board (vector board) with T-42 push in terminals... and
> > > > when I'm done (unless it gets too big...) it can go right from the
development
> > > > bench into a box to be used on the road for the next twenty years... which
> > > > the solderless breadboard cannot do.
> > > >
> > > > OTOH those terminals cost $.04 each... in thousands. But they allow as much
> > > > re-soldering as you can stand... perfect for trying out new values.
> > > > If you leave the leads a little long you can reuse components just as easily.
> > > >
> > >
> > > can you say more about this?  not sure i understand the concept.  links?
> > >
> > > alex
> > > --
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> >
> > --
> >  -Jim
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