(OT) Re: [sdiy] DIY rocketry
Dr Strangelove
phdinfunk at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 2 00:19:33 CEST 2001
I'm gonna have to go with Paul on this one. I built around 10 Estees
rockets with my dad when I was <10. My dad was crazy about safety so we
wore googles when we launched stuff, I guess we didn't ever make any
home-made engines that would have tended to explode. We did sometimes make
home-made engine mounts, wrapping the engine in AL foil so it fit tight into
the bottom of the rocket. It seemed like the engine mounts that were part
of the kit often tended to come out somehow or another. You guys got me
thinking it would be fun to shoot some of those old rockets again.
-=<Jonathan Pratt>=-
(Phdinfunk at hotmail.com)
>From: media at mail1.nai.net
>To: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1 at airmail.net>
>CC: <synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl>
>Subject: (OT) Re: [sdiy] DIY rocketry
>Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 14:06:54 -0400 (EDT)
>
>At 6:34 PM -0500 09/29/01, Paul Schreiber wrote:
> >>
> >> >when I was 11yrs old, and nearly killed myself 3 times with Estes
>model
> >> >rockets.
> >>
> >> I wonder how many DIYers have NOT managed to nearly blow themselves up.
>I
> >> bet it's a minority. My friend put a home made rocket motor through his
> >leg.
> >> I was at a "safe" distance of about five feet away at the time.
> >>
> >
> >There was a big news article yesterday where a NASA engineer blew himself
> >>up in his backyard mixing fuel for a home-made chemical rocket.
>
>You would think a professional engineer would have more sense. Apparently,
>this rocket scientist was no brain surgeon!!
>
>I remember reading a book that defined three kinds of rocketeers:
>
>1) professional rocketeers -- safe well-trained professionals
>2) amateur rocketeers -- dangerous nitwits
>3) model rocketeers -- safe hobbyists
>
>I never considered the Estes-type stuff dangerous. I used to build model
>rockets when I was a kid back in the 70's. I never came close to being
>hurt, and afaik, neither did any of my competitors. I remember once a fin
>tore off a rocket and it shot right into a school window -- it didn't even
>hurt the glass.
>
> >Rocketry is a classic case of "progressive danger syndrome" where each
> >>time, you get crazier building a bigger,
> >more powerful one. Until common sense kicks in.
>
>I think it depends on what you are doing. If you are building for
>competition there are rules which keep everyone safe. Egg lofting might
>lead you to matching the weight of each fin on a gram scale, comparing a
>dozen types of paint, or borrowing your mom's sewing machine to build a
>real silk parachute, but it doesn't lead to danger. Neither does building
>the most realistic model (of a Saturn V, V2, or whatever).
>
>Of course it lead to some creative stuff, like who can loft the heaviest
>surviving animal, adding telemetry or miniature cameras, etc. I remember
>building a "scissor-wing" rocket that went up like a rocket, and came down
>like a glider.
>
> >I got scared with the
> >Centaur F-97 engines (shipped by
> >rail only) and decided I liked having 2 eyes and 10 fingers.
>
>I remember one company (I forget their name) that offered a special
>F-engine that could break Mach 1 when used with the right design.
>
>
>
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