[sdiy] OT: sequencing over the internet

[Torbjörn Hörnfeldt]

Not updated on problems with "collision detection" (concept right?) of USB and Firewire. Like to know more...

Torbjörn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curtin, Steven D (Steven)" <sdcurtin at agere.com>
To: <synth-diy at node12b53.a2000.nl>; "Glen" <mclilith at ezwv.com>; <kynsi at boomboomclap.demon.nl>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: [sdiy] OT: sequencing over the internet


> Rocket Networks doesn't assume real-time response over the internet either.
> You upload your midi or audio into their sequencer and it then plays the
> material in sync with other material that's been loaded.
> 
> Another interesting application of this is Silophone, an installation in a
> huge grain elevator that's been converted into a massive reverb chamber.
> You send them an audio sample and the application plays the sound through
> the Silophone.  For more details see
> 
> http://www.silophone.net/
> 
> I haven't seen a hardware device that does this, although a number of
> embedded Karioke systems in Japan will download a song file with lyrics and
> play it on a one time only basis, sort of "pay-per-play".
> 
> I've been having a lot of fun with USB lately, it could be everything that
> ZIPI was supposed to be given the right protocol layer.   It seems to be
> replacing a lot of busses these days, from SCSI to GPIB.  FireWire may be
> overkill for MIDI.
> 
> Steve C
> 
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> > ----------
> > From: Kyn Si[SMTP:kynsi at boomboomclap.demon.nl]
> > Reply To: kynsi at boomboomclap.demon.nl
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 12:36 PM
> > To: synth-diy at node12b53.a2000.nl; Glen
> > Subject: RE: [sdiy] OT: sequencing over the internet
> > 
> > Hi Glen,
> > 
> > I personally think that realtime midi-transmission via LAN/internet is 
> > something for the future but at the moment impossible. The biggest problem
> > 
> > is latency. I have two computers connected to the internet via cable 
> > (@home) and the ping-time between the two is 40ms. The ping-time to
> > outside-
> > computers is between 100ms and 1500ms. This is way to much for realtime 
> > sequencing etc. I think it will take highspeed fibreglass or optical 
> > wireless laser connections to reach acceptable latency-times. I remember 
> > seeing an item on cnn about realtime music-composition over the internet 
> > using laser-technology or fibre-cable with virtually no delay.
> > 
> > Maybe a completely different protocol is an option. Even the connection
> > via 
> > midi from my computer (mac g3) to my esi isn't fast enough for crispy, 
> > tight percussion programming. I read things about ZIPI a while ago but I 
> > think development has stopped. Maybe firewire is an option?
> > 
> > Adios,
> > 
> > Corneel.
> > 
> > 
> > -->At 09:27 AM 3/14/01 , Dan Gendreau wrote:
> > -->
> > -->This topic makes me wonder if it would be practical to write some sort
> > of
> > -->MIDI drivers which would send MIDI info over a LAN, instead of MIDI 
> > -->cables,
> > -->at higher speeds than standard MIDI? For example, I'm thinking of
> > having
> > -->sequencer software on one computer and soft synths on the other
> > computer/
> > -->s.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > "the modern day composer refuses to die" - E. Varese
> > 
> >             "real music never will" - K.S.
> > 
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