Fw: [sdiy] synthi A webpage update

[harry]

OK here's my two cents...

If a manufacturer gives you a schematic in confidence... you should not break
trust and put it on the web / website.

If they force you to reverse engineer the thing... then that is your work, fair
game.
I'd out them if they refused to provide a schematic...

We DO have an issue of other maunfacturers taking things from websites and
turning them into commercial products.

H^)  harry

Gert Jalass wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I just like to add to Juergens remarks, that EMS ( more precisely the German
> branch - Rehberg ) are still in business and they are VERY reluctant to
> share any type of  information related to schematics. I did want to restore
> an AKS the other day and I did finally succeed without having the complete
> schematics ...
>
> Gert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "steve thomas" <s.thomas at qmw.ac.uk>
> To: <synth-diy at node12b53.a2000.nl>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 12:43 AM
> Subject: [sdiy] synthi A webpage update
>
> >
> >  Hi Juergen..thanks very much for your nice  comments. Indeed you raise
> > questions  and concerns about building such clones that I had already
> >  thought about to some extent..and infact I was thinking of raising it
> with
> >  other members of the list. I guess as you say its one thing to make
> clones
> >  of  synths where the company has long since folded (like Arp for
> example),
> >  but another when the company still trades and makes
> >  equipment. As far as I know EMS stopped making synthi A's because the
> > supply
> >  of cases has run out.
> >  But even so I think  there is still the moral question of whether we
> should
> >  make clones even in this situation.
> >  I wonder what people on the list think?
> >  Certainly I admit that at some stage I felt a bit uncomfortable with the
> >  fact that my clone looks quite like ..well,  a synthi A. Even this aside
> >  there is the more delicate issue of  use of schemos etc.
> >  Anyway I certainly dont want to put you on the 'spot' ..but  your synthi
> >  clone has been influential to me. I defintely have NO intention of
> putting
> >  any EMS schemos on the web that aren't there already!
> >  But I guess these are all serious issues. Perhaps ultimately we need
> Robin
> >  Wood to tell us what he thinks on this subject?  I did ask him some time
> > ago
> >  what he thought about me making some of the circuits from the
> >  service manual. He said he wasnt that happy ..but that if it was for
> >  personal use ..it was ok. I am not sure what he would think of my clone.
> >
> >  best regards, steve
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: jh. <jhaible at t-online.de>
> > > To: S.Thomas <S.Thomas at qmw.ac.uk>; <synth-diy at node12b53.a2000.nl>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [sdiy] synthi A webpage update
> > >
> > >
> > > > > It goes without saying that my original motivation
> > > > > to build this was in no small measure down to Juergen Haibles
> > > > > remarkable efforts in building his synthi A clone,  as well as
> > > > > all the great help from colleagues  on the  synth-diy list!
> > > >
> > > > Hey, your front panel graphics look awesome ! Congrats !
> > > > I just read about your matrix - so you really made your own from
> > > > tiny jacks at last (;->).
> > > >
> > > > I saw your mention of my name on your page, which is more than I
> > deserve,
> > > > as reluctant as I have been in encouraging others to build a clone.
> > > >
> > > > Seriously: Let's not spread out all the information from EMS, please.
> > > > You have a clone now, you can be proud of it, but *please* do not
> > > > make circuits available for the masses. This is not like publishing
> Korg
> > > > or Roland analog circuits (who have long lost interest in analog
> > synths).
> > > > I would be very sad if my building a clone would be the beginning of
> > > > an chain that leads to serious trouble for EMS in the end.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > JH.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >