re-re-re percussion ribbon...

Scibona, Joe joe.scibona at
Wed Nov 17 22:22:09 CET 1999

I like the idea of an X-Y controller.  I would suggest using a flat
rectangular sensor like a touch screen overlay.  The type that are used on
flat panel displays come in digital or analog restive types.  They come with
plastic or hardened glass backers.  (plastic is probably best for this
application.   The front surface is a clear plastic film which is fairly
durable but I would recommend covering it with a rubber membrane or
something to protect it (especially if you intend to use sticks as opposed
to mallets on it).  
Playing on this would give you position in the X and Y but no amplitude
For that I would add a piezo element to the backer plate as the trigger and
The rest is software.

You can get these panels as evaluation kits for PC's along with a circuit
interface and software that emulates a mouse.  (I have one or two of these
at work)  You can set various parameters that will set the sensitivity and
the pointer behavior.  Tweaking these may allow you to get a glide effect.
(set the mouse trails on your PC's to ON and see what I mean.)

That's my two cents for today.

I've been lurking in the background on this list for 2+ years,  I figure
it's about time I posted something to show for my 35ys of electronics
background and 31yrs as a music hack.
(drummer not a keyboard/synthist)  

So,  Hi gang!
I'm Joe, and I'm damned glad to meet ya!

P.S.  Built my own version of the ThereMan a while back.  A cool toy.  Any

Other misc.:
I have a Univox Analog synth
a Gnome
a paia drum Synth (one channel)
a Midi keyboard
a couple of midi sax's (Yamaha toys)
a Yamaha drum synth  (DD7 I think)
a Theremax
a Fatman
a Casio midi keyboard
An assortment of home brew sound synth devices
 of course a drum set and assorted percussion thingies
4 guitars, 2 elect, 2 accu. (that I still can't play worth a darn)
misc. other instru. (keyboards, flutes, harmonicas...etc.  blah blah blah)
and a garage shop filled with 35years of electronics hobby materials.

Currently working on (among other projects) a couple of MadMice from TomG.
If I ever get around to finishing them I may post again.

Bye for now!

Remember:  There are no stupid questions.  Only stupid people who try and
answer them with out having a clue what they are talking about...

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> From: 	Dr. Jörg Schmitz[SMTP:JSchmitz at]
> Sent: 	Wednesday, November 17, 1999 3:31 AM
> To: 	'synth-diy at'
> Subject: 	re-re-re percussion ribbon...
> >No, seriously, he used enamaled (sp?) wire wound carefully on the string,
> >then grinding paper (very fine) to deisolate a little trace.
> >I remember that he said that this is very sensitive.
> Sorry for the late response on "percussion ribbon controler", we had some 
> major problems with our e-mail-server.
> Yes, Martin is right, and both strings work fine. But I think for
> percussion
> it would be better to take a ribboncontroller-like device.
> A string is not so "handy".
> Wouldn't it be possible to take 4 little pieco-speaker, place them at the
> corners of a wooden square (for example, could be plastic, too) and then
> measure the differences of peak output voltage between two opposite
> corners
> while hitting the square on a special position ?
> This should give you the x-y-position on the square.
> The piecos should go through a peak detector, for example, and this signal
> should pass a sample-and-hold, triggered by a 5th pieco, which is more
> sensitive 
> than the other 4.This trigger should activate the "hold" some ms after the
> trigger.
> The difference between diagonal piecos should give a voltage which defines
> the position on the diagonal.
> This voltage could be splitted up with a device like Jürgen Haibles
> Morphing
> controller into several channels (In this case it would be better to get
> an "on-off"-signal), which leads to (lets say) 4 distinct regions in the X
> and another 4 regions in the Y-Axis, which leads to 16 Channels (or rhythm
> instruments) on ONE WOODEN SQUARE.
> Ha, I have to try that !!
> J.S.
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> Dr. J. Schmitz 
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