AW: Doepfer MS-404

Junger Joerg Joerg.Junger at
Wed Nov 17 09:11:59 CET 1999

Hi Tom

As far as I know they develop their midi products themselves. As they did
with their sequencers like the MAQ 16/3. Which is still the only product
this way. Btw. using an application note as a basis to design a circuit I
would not call thievery or would you?
I still think Dieter Doepfer has lots of merits for preparing market again
for new affordable modulars. Or do you think that there would be all these
manufacturors when they had seen that Doepfer had failed with his A 100
While I still can see that not everything is great about Doepfer products I
starting to feel puzzled about the amount of 'how Doepfer is crap' mails
that are starting to occur on AH and here.



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von:	tomg [SMTP:efm3 at]
> Gesendet am:	Dienstag, 16. November 1999 16:33
> An:	Paul Maddox; synthdiy
> Betreff:	Re: Doepfer MS-404
> >  Its funny, looking at this and then at some of the designs from
> >people on the list, just how good some of our circuits are and
> >how easy they would be to put into production.
> Evidently Doepfer thought so too, ask JH!....  Not much originality 
> there.He' s got Paul's Rogue/MG1 vcos, the an299 heater ,Bob's 
> ladder and he probably bought the rights to somebody else's midi
> interface. I suspect this is a prevailing theft...uhhh... theme in all 
> Doepfer products.
> Not that I could do much better...but I didn't put it into production
> did I? Somebody said the difference between someone who is
> smart and a genius is.... A smart person will find a solution you
> think you could have thought of. A genius will catch you 
> completely by surprise with his original thinking. Well the only
> surprise here is the fact that he took so much liberty with the
> work of others. I've never heard a 404 but I'll bet it does a nice
> tb303 which is also close to Moog robbery, but a least Roland
> had the courtesy to do something original with it.
> -tg

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