AW: AW: Vinyl/CD

[Haible Juergen]

	>Juergen, I think until now it was all modest and friendly.

Yes, that's nice, isn't it ?

	>I like tea, you like coffee, Bud likes beer (just a joke ;->).

I *love* tea. No joke (;->). Favorite stuff at the moment: Emei Szechuan
Spring,
Pi Lo Chun, Ceylon Nuwara Elia. And my all time favorites, Pai Mu Tan and
Darjeeling Autumnals, of course. (Sorry for OT stuff. Recommendations for
good tea are highly welcome by private email ...)

	>> How can we fake a good bass response on a small loudspeaker ?
Make a
	>> peak and then a steep slope in frequency response.
	>> How does the CD come across its inability to reproduce harmonics
beyond
	>> 22kHz ? You guessed it.
	<> 
	>> 	JH.
	>
	>I don't exactly understand what this last sentece means.

Only this: There are two different ways to handle the upper frequency range:

(1) A slight rolloff that does not look like a straight line near 15kHz, but
still has a lot of volume beyond 20kHz
(2) An almost straight line and an (almost) brick wall slope at 20 (or 22 ?)
kHz.

I won't argue which one is "better" ("de gustibus ..."), but I think that
it's widely agreed upon that there is a sonical *difference* at least.
Having grown up with (1) (Vinyl, and real life sounds, too (!) ), I'm
trained
to look at this as a kind of reference. So in case (2), something might
be perceived as *missing* above 22kHz, even if the whole impression
is a "brighter" one, because *compared to (1)* there is a peak around
15 ... 20kHz, even if the measured frequency response is a straight line.

It's a matter of "taste", or to use a different word, a matter of being
"conditioned".

	>I have made the experience that I'm not able to decide between
steep or
	>flat lp slopes above say, 15-16kHz. I'm not very sensible there,
	>I can hear something, but it has no real tonal characteristic,
	>and higher frequencys really sound identical to noise.

Same for me. I might not even be able to decide in a short A/B test.
I really have not such good ears. I hear sine waves up to 15kHz,
but I have an ugly notch around 7kHz on the right ear.
The only thing I can tell is what many others have experienced, too:
That listening to the same stuff from vinyl over headphones will be
more relaxing, causing less ear fatigue, after a certain span of time.

	JH.