Get "hard sync" sound out of a guitar?
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Fri Jun 4 07:54:14 CEST 1999
In a message dated 6/3/99 8:59:45 PM, costello at seanet.com wrote:
<<Speaking of, anyone have any good ideas of how to get a good "hard sync"
sound out of a guitar? i.e.
the sound of an oscillator that is swept in frequency, hard synced to a
master oscillator that stays
at one pitch. I suppose you could do it with a combination of a resonant
filter, envelope following,
and distortion - I've obtained very hard-sync sounds out of a number of
synths this way. Any
alternate ideas of how to implement this?>>
I know of a couple of excellent methods for doing this, but they are both
pretty complicated. First, there's the Roland GR-300
pitch-to-period-to-voltage-to-sawtooth circuit, which tracks guitar strings
very well (much better than any guitar-to-MIDI box you've played). It
doesn't have sync built in, but it wouldn't be too difficult to derive a
reset pulse from the tracking converter. Second, there's the very rare
Sequential Circuits Pro/FX unit, which was a modular effects rack that had
plug-in programmable effect modules. One of the modules was a tracking
oscillator with hard sync. I had a chance to play one once, and it worked
really well! It had that classic Prophet V sync sound, with an envelope
follower to sweep the synced oscillator. You could also turn off the sync
and use it as a tracking interval follower (tuned to a third, fifth, octave,
or whatever).
I have schematics for this unit, and it's quite an odd circuit indeed. It
uses standard parts for the most part, but it does have a couple of Curtis
3320 filter chips. The oscillator circuitry is discrete, fortunately. The
Curtis filters are configured as low and high pass filters, respectively, but
are not part of the audio path. They are set up to track the incoming guitar
note and, via a clever phase-lock/feedback loop scheme, follow its pitch and
filter all but its fundamental. The fundamental is then squared,
differentiated, and used to trip the reset on a sawtooth VCO. The PLL
circuit also outputs a rough 1v/oct, which goes to the two filters and the
sawtooth CV node. There's also a sample and hold that holds the last
pitch/voltage that was played, so the note doesn't fizzle out and go off
pitch as the guitar string dies down. The whole mess is quite complicated,
and probably not easy to DIY. I'm explaining this circuit from memory, so I
might have it partially wrong, but you get the idea, I think.
There may indeed be simpler ways to achieve the synced VCO sound on a guitar,
especially if you don't need it to track the guitar's pitch. Maybe a
flip-flop octave circuit with some kind of reset, connected to a (silent)
master oscillator? Scott Gravenhorst has done some interesting things with
phase-locked loops, too. He might have some ideas.
Michael Bacich
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