If you want to make your own 1/8" type for less than $4 in materials, I (humbly) suggest the Blacet Cable Kit, the materials of which I would glady place in competition with any other product! $12 for the 5 cable kit. Regards. ------------------------- John Blacet Blacet Research Music Electronics http://www.blacet.com ------------------------- blacet at metro.net