Propellerhead ReBirth

[Magnus Danielson]

>>>>> "B" == BJ  <zzynt at swipnet.se> writes:

 B> Well,I think that this discussion got a bit out of hand here!

 B> Regardless if one million people would report some pirates
 B> or cracked P-head software i hardly doubt that P-Head would try to
 B> do any thing about it!

 B> Because the hard core fact is that the cost to nail someone down and
 B> go to the court and to put the proof's in front of the judge are so
 B> cumbersome and a hassle and stress and foremost a very costly process
 B> that they would infact not do it!

 B> I have some experience in this field that makes me pretty sure
 B> on this matter.(Im not the pirater, im just a eye witness of an act)

 B> For example we do have several cases in sweden where we can proof
 B> that you as software pirat can in 99% of the cases dont have to
 B> bother about go to jail!

 B> One is the swedish instution Carolinska who happens to be one 
 B> of the post's to nominating on of the Nobels prices!
 B> This story made quite an issue in US to,
 B> the Californian govenor was inwolved in the case!

 B> They had copied a research software in several houndred copies
 B> and used it for many years without paying for it.

 B> This story went to court and they poked around to made
 B> a cover up, the californian company lost the case even
 B> after the police hade made a hit and secure all the computers
 B> and all the proof that wenth along with the computers.
 B> All that matters in this case was swedish justice had to think about
 B> in the institutions best and in its world wide reputation!

Well, there is another similar story where a couple of crackers
cracked a PhD-student's account at KTH (Royal Institute of Technology)
set up a FSP server and had commercial programs being exposed, they
announced it via the "propper" channels and thus distributed copies of
these programs worth 15 MSEK (8.04 SEK = 1 USD). What the cracker's
didn't know was that the sysop's where logging their every move.
This hit got quite some attention in media and just the other week I
read in the newspaper that the court had convicted them. So, there can
be cases when the court's do go around doing about the right thing.

This story was a very close encounter for my own part, I worked at the
institution that got hit, I know these sysop's, I even vaguely know
one of the guys that did it. The sysop for a while was watching the
bizzare things that I was doing in order to see if I was involved,
they later took me aside and explained things and excused for the
suspision they have had.

 B> To give you some hard facts.
 B> No 1 are Chine, in piracy copying of software, 98%.
 B> No 2 are sweden with 92 %

 B> Americans was at no4 i think, dont remember exactly.
 B> Once i made an surwey of this and found out that the biggest
 B> pirates in sweden was the BIG companies like ASEA, Ericsson etc.

This is not a big supprise, on the same time much of this piracy is
not due to planed intention in a coordinated manor, but rather more or
less uncoordinated manuvers. Big orginasations move slow with all the
paperwork, it goes faster pirating a software than doing the full
dance to get it in a approved way and with the blessing of your boss.
On the same time, this is also the way free softwares (link GNU tools
and Linux) sneak in to these places, so it is not all that bad.

 B> BJ
 B> PS. I dont belive for one second that anyone at synt-diy
 B> are 100% straight legal regarding to software piracying! :)

Most probably true!

I think we all have commited a sin one or a few timess, question is
how to avoid it. Personally I have in a large degree started to reduce
my usage of anything being efficiently free (like GPL). This way I may
bother myself less with thinking of how I use it, something which is a
headache all over. I am not prepared to be Bill's toilett cleaner...

Hmm... this just vaguely connects to building synths, but some of the
issues about property rights is certainly a burning topic for some.
Someone wanted to take over the right of the graphical layout that I
had done from a handdraw schematic. This someone claimed that he had
copyright over the schematic, but as things turned out he only had
copyright over the schematic that was the inspiration for the
schematic that I got. I got very sad about this story, but I refused
to give up the right over the schematic layout (the artistic work)
that I had done (in a open give-away spirit I might add, no money
around anywhere for me).

Cheers,
Magnus