The concert!

[Magnus Danielson]

>>>>> "B" == BJ  <zzynt at swipnet.se> writes:

 B> My question is ,have this type of concert taken place
 B> before or was this the very first one?
 >> 
 >> Well, it might be one of the first electronic music concerts
 >> performed, but there is some net related concerts prior to that.

 B> Well,that may be by cable then and not by satellite?

Yeap, cable/fibre. Satellite is carying a very high delay-cost (36000
km of flight distance from the equator kind of does it).

 B> satel-lite, a sugar free satel then?? 

Yeap, remember this next them you go of chewing some old satellite ;)

 >> It should be noted that STD appeared for the second time when they
 >> opened for Rolling Stones...

 B> And when was this event taking place?

Well, it is there on the STD website but STD first played in '93 and
STD played a second time in '94 as the opening band for the Stones.
These events occured on the glourious part of the network known as Mbone.

 >> Either of these moments may not share the technical glory that the
 >> Darmstadt/Stockholm gig did in synchronisity, but they where there...

 B> And Karlsruhe and the net!

 B> Well, this was certainly not a technical glory event.
 B> No it was home built electronics,short wave radios,cheap yamaha reverbs,
 B> metallic cans and plates.The only hitech vas the satellite and some
 B> 3 computers running soundscape.

Ah well... any Mbone transmission carries a certain amount of
homebuilt stuff, blended with hot computers and other stuff ;)
 
 >> The roundtrip time for a satelite is in the 900:s of ms and humans
 >> kind of mess things up at 150 ms,

 B> On what premisses are you grounding this 150ms figure on?

150 ms is old rule of thumb for telecommunications. This is the
roundtripp time where the brain start to get serious trouble such that
two people will start get annoyed with the intergap delays and will
also talk in there mouths. This is why cable is more interesting for
such communications... satellite is good for broadcast and other
unidirectional stuff.

 >> that can actually take delay (hard to find thought) or you provide
 >> local metronomes and then delay stuff into sync.

 B> They had some rack unit named Time Modulator/strech for each musican? 

Hmm... rings a bell!
 
 >> Thing is, as technology has improved, we still haven't improved the
 >> speed of light that much...

 B> Well you can still do things in sync or play delayed.
 B> If you can hear 32.5 ms delay you would probably hear a 150ms delay!
 B> But as you say i could not be 100,1 % sure.Only 99,9% soure!!

Right...

 B> BJ in the land of dely,ely,ly,y,y......

Magnus in the land of decay.....