Sampling sounds or...

Steve daedalus at tezcat.com
Tue May 12 21:51:53 CEST 1998


>Well, I think here is the only place where I can ask this to somebody.
>
>It's something like that: People say "Don't sample the TR's! Don't sample
>the Mini Moog! Don't sample this! Don't sample that! You have to buy them if
>you want, because of the 'feeling', the internal sequencer is different..."
>
>Man, aren't these people a bunch of idiots? They have ears that listen to
>errors where they aren't, they have a lot of analog stuff and keep annoying
>the ones with Nord Lead and JP-8000... I think that if I sample the TR-808,
>it will have the same final sound. So does the TB, and Juno, and MiniMoog...

Let's take the simplest example I can think of: a twin-T drum oscillator
("resonant circuit" is actually more descriptive of what it is and does).
Variations of this were used in some TR's, several Simmons/Tama drumbrains,
and can still be bought as kits (from PAiA and others).

When you trigger one of these, the trigger pulse dies down in the drum osc
similarly to the way that a real  (acoustic) drum decays.  If you trigger
it a second time while it is still decaying, you get a much different sound
than if you play back a sample of the initial hit.  If you want a really
glaring example of the difference, compare several sampled 808 kicks played
in close succession to the sound of the real thing being triggered in the
same pattern.

If you still can't hear the difference, that's OK - you shouldn't bother
paying for what you can't hear.  Keep in mind, though, that there are some
who *can* hear it, and we're not delusional, either - the differences we
hear can be detected and measured.  As it is, though, you're coming off
sounding like a blind man who is arguing that  a verbal description of a
painting is just as good as seeing the real thing.


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