CEM use in the MOTM/Module List

[Paul Schreiber]

BTW: Most of the chips are physically in a bonded, insured, fireproof warehouse in San Jose, CA. I don't have
27,000 in my garage! In fact, if 6 months go by and I don't "ping" the warehouse, the chips revert back to OnChip Systems. So if I get hit by a falling 909, there chips are still around.

Here is the list of modules to come, roughly in the order that are coming, with a price ESTIMATE.

Voltage Controlled Dual 2:1 Audio Switch $80 (no CEM)
Voltage Controlled Dual 2:1 DC Switch $80 (no CEM)
24U wide wood case w/rails/power supply $400 
Envelope Follower/Cross-Product Module $125 (no CEM)
Moog Ladder Filter $80 (no CEM)
Quad VCA $90 (CEM PDA381, still in production,  3218 in the warehouse)
Dual EG $90 (CEM3310 based, I have 2,210 left)
Dual VCO (yes, 3340 based, I have about 320 left, stop whining) $170
15-mode Xpander filter $160 (CEM3372 based, I have 2,081 left). Has 8051uP in it, responds to MIDI.
Mic Pre-amp w/Compressor $110 (no CEM)

I will also have sequencers, waveshapres, etc etc. Please understand that EACH module's initial investment (on my
part) is about $2000. So the future modues are funded by people buying the current ones. I am not making tons
of money on these, but hoping to kick-start the DIY 'Electronotes' era of years past. That's why I have a MOTM-000
breadboard module.

Also, I'll but the specs and quality of these MOTM modules up against anything Moog, ARP, Serge, etc built.

Paul Schreiber
Synthesis Technology
www.synthtech.com

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From: 	Jim Johnson[SMTP:jamos at technotoys.com]
Sent: 	Saturday, March 14, 1998 12:34 AM
To: 	synth1 at airmail.net; analogue at hyperreal.org
Subject: 	Re: CEM use in the MOTM

>As of today, my total CEM inventory is over 27,000 chips. This is quite an
investment on my part, wouldn't you say?

Wow. I stand corrected. :') I guess I over-extrapolated the 3340 shortage.

As long as I've got your ear - I've looked at the MOTM docs, and am very
excited, but I'm curious as to what other modules (beyond the three
announced) are planned. Is there a list that I missed?

Jim Johnson 
Metaphoric Software
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Makers of Techno Toys
Software for Electronic Music
http://www.technotoys.com
info at technotoys.com

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On 3/13/98, at 6:58 PM, Paul Schreiber  wrote: 

>This brings up a couple of points I'd like to address.
>
>1) EXCEPT for the 3340s and 3360s, I have over 1000 of ALL the CEM chips,
each one. I don't classify that as
>instant orphan. Besides, I will offer discrete versions of some things
(Moog ladder filter, etc). I have 10,000 3320s!!
>The MOTM-100 Noise S&H has zero CEM. The next 4 MOTM modules have zero
CEM.
>
>As of today, my total CEM inventory is over 27,000 chips. This is quite an
investment on my part, wouldn't you say?
>
>The main reason I'm using them is ease of use for you, the end user. OK,
if I sell 10,000 MOTM modules we can panic. So far, I don't forsee that.
>
>2) I have a 'reserve' stock policy: for every CEMxxxx sold into a MOTM
kit, 1 CEMxxxx goes in reserve. If by a 
>freak of nature every CEM-based MOTM dies, then 100% will have replacement
chips.
>
>Just as a point of reference: my inital total CEM stock from last Feb.
14th, the first day I offered CEM for sale,
>has been depleted a total of 7% as of today.
>
>Yes, you can argue that eventually, I will run out. In about 8-10 years. 
>
>So, in conclusion I don't think having CEM content in MOTM is
'disappointing'.
>
>Paul Schreiber
>Synthesis Technology
>
>
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>From: 	Jim Johnson[SMTP:jamos at technotoys.com]
>Sent: 	Friday, March 13, 1998 8:32 PM
>To: 	analogue at hyperreal.org
>Subject: 	Re: Wanted alive -> CEM 3340.
>
>>Yup, DB has them for, gasp, $50 each  + s&h.  If you need them as
>replacements
>>then keep looking.  If you want to just build good VCO's them you might
>wait
>>for Synthesis Tech. to come out with their VCO kit sometime around May
>(search
>>for their web site, I can't get at my bookmark file right now or I'd post
>the
>>URL myself).  
>>I expect that they will use either the CEM 3340  (which they may have
>access
>>to since they are associated with Curtis, the manufacturer of the CEM
>chips)
>>or the more available and cheaper CEM 3374 which is a duel VCO with  (I
>think)
>>not so many or the same BUILT IN features as the 3340 but a duel form.
>
>I'm really excited about Paul's kits, but am disappointed that he is using
>CEM chips. The writing is definitely on the wall for these - they are no
>longer in production (as I understand it) , which means the modules are
>orphaned as soon as they are built. Discrete designs ala the Fenix are
much
>more appealing. Still, I've heard Paul talk about getting Curtis to do
>another production run, which would change everything. Maybe we should
take
>up a collection?
>
>Jim Johnson 
>Metaphoric Software
>-------------------
>Makers of Techno Toys
>Software for Electronic Music
>http://www.technotoys.com
>info at technotoys.com