Harald Bode Barberpole Phaser Questions
Don Tillman
don at till.com
Sun Jan 18 04:10:08 CET 1998
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:55:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Sean Costello <costello at costello.seanet.com>
Don Tillman replied:
>Wait a second... What if it was a *completely* inaccurate quadrature
>filter? Well, that means you'd have both up-shift and down-shift
>mixed together. But that's just a simple ring modulator. If you
>replaced the frequency shifter with a simple ring modulator you'd
>effectively have a rising barberpole mixed with a falling barberpole.
>That might be nice effect. Sure it's cooler to have rising and falling
>barberpoles as a stereo pair, but if you're on a budget this might not
>be a bad thing. Hey Juergen, you're set up for this experiment right
>now...
Excitement prevails over the simplicity of the idea! However, fellow
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(The amazing thing is that the Palo Alto, Stanford and Menlo
Park shots were all taken within a 1.5 mile radius.)
If you don't have Quicktime loaded you can download a copy here for
free:
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>Wouldn't this lead to amplitude modulation, because you are
>essentially mixing some of the upshift with downshift, making
>part of the circuit act like a ring modulator? If you
>encountered even slight variations in the perceived signal
>level this could be problematic (or useful depending on
>your goals).
Okay, the idea I mentioned above won't work, I spoke way too quickly,
but I think the reason why is worth noting...
When you have an ascending continuous phase shift (frequency shift up)
combined with a descending continuous phase shift (frequency shift
down) the resulting phase sits still. It's effectively a node. So
the single multiplier circuit is not going to be providing that
continuous phase shift that's so important to the barberpole process.
Unfortunately there's no free lunch.
-- Don
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