I'm still playing with designs for the MM. The latest bunch and details are on my page. I know I said no OTAs. You'll just have to take a look. LM136OO - CV-VCA LM136OO - VCF LM136OO - VCA LM136OO - DUAL VCO http://www.tomg.vivid.net/madm/page_004.html -tg