Moog schematics and on-line schematics in general

[Magnus Danielson]

>>>>> "TC" == Tony Clark <clark at andrews.edu> writes:

Tony,

 >> >Again, I'm not trying to make enemies, I'm just pointing out  that the
 >> >statement  "The Moog modular schemos" are online, might be a bit
 >> >misleading.
 >> 
 >> Actually, I think you're more likely to make friends by pointing this out. I
 >> can imagine the frustration of trying to get an oscillator to align to the
 >> wrong spec, or puzzling for hours over a component that should or should not
 >> be there. 
 >> 
 >> According to the index page (the moog one, not the html one) there should be
 >> some bode modules there that aren't, too, from what I recall.

 TC>    Okay, since everyone is talking about the Archive site which I 
 TC> maintain, I guess I should make a comment or two.  First, I don't own 
 TC> hardly _ANY_ of the schematics which are on my site.  I rely on people 
 TC> who _DO_ own them to scan them in (decently) and then donate them to the 
 TC> archive where they can be available to anyone who doesn't normally have 
 TC> access to this kind of information.

There where not intent by any of the parties to say that your site or
your work with it and the material at where bad. Rather, it was a
coloration of a cheerfull comment refering to said site.

As for my own comments, I know that I intended to promote further
refinement of the material.

 TC>    Seriously, if someone were really _needing_ these schematics to repair 
 TC> a modular, synth, drum module, etc, it is _always_ in the best interest 
 TC> of the person to _track_ down hardcopies of the schematics.  That is why 
 TC> I try to keep track of who donated which schematics so that _YOU_, the 
 TC> diy enthusiast, can talk to the people that own the originals (well 
 TC> copies, most likely).

The people are well noted on your site, so getting in touch with these
people should be in the trivia department.

 TC>    But in some cases, what is there online is exactly what you are going 
 TC> to find in hard form.  For instance, if I were to scan in my PS-3100 
 TC> schematics, you'd get the same badly copied crap that I have on paper.  
 TC> And since you can't call Korg up and get the service manual anymore (the 
 TC> tech told me "Do you know how OLD that thing is?"), sometimes you just 
 TC> have to deal with what you can find.
 TC>    In any case, I have been aware that there are missing pictures from 
 TC> some of the schematic "sets" that are on the Archive.  Unfortunately I 
 TC> _don't_ have the time to go actively tracking these missing schematics 
 TC> down.  And again, rely on _YOU_, the synth enthusiasts, to help me 
 TC> complete the sets.

No one said that you should do it, but it was made as a remark so that
people sitting on such material would share it so that the archive
would be more complete.

If one guy scans his incomplete set someone else migth slip in the
missing pieces with less effort than scaning the hole bunch.

Also, someone that has no direct access to even a incomplete set may
have some use of the set that is available and will sheer even further
when the missing once gets in there.

What I and Kevin noted was that there where a few missing pieces, I
pointed to one and I guess Kevin has some himself. I will look in my
scarse schematic library to see if there isn't anything I could scan
to make the set more complete.

 TC>    So instead of anyone griping that something isn't there, go track it 
 TC> down.  Email me a scan, or photocopy it and send it to me by post.  I'll 
 TC> put it up.  :)  Heck, if you have pointers to help people READ the 
 TC> schematics (like somewhat cryptic Moog modular ones) then Email me a 
 TC> detailed text describing things to look for, errors, etc, and I'll post 
 TC> it to a page.
 TC>    Remember folks, it's all about _sharing_ information.  That's what the 
 TC> DIY list is all about.

You are so right.

Cheers,
Magnus