Swedish musik instument, Clavia the dreadfull.

bj zzynt at algonet.se
Tue Sep 30 23:16:12 CEST 1997


The Dark force of dance wrote:
> 
> Y-ellow y'all.
Thanks another time for a interesting posting...

> >You said evolution...ahh the people that made the Evolution EVS1 dsp
> >machine?
> 
> Yeop. They be it. The EVS1 is an FM machine. Only 3 operators per voice but
> the combinations of those 3 operators make yamaha's implementation look a
> bit lame. It's actually a very nice box.

But only 20 writable memory locations......lousy.....poor...
 
> >It sound's to me that your system was/is some kind of the system
> >fairlight are
> >doing today with their HD recording main frame system, but they doing it
> >for sale at extremly high price? Or more like the Kyma systems!
> 
> Let me put it this way. It wouldn't be like any synth you'd ever seen
> before. It would be like _every_ synth you'd ever seen before. If it could
> be synthesized, this thing could synthesize it. 32 times over in fact.

If your design are of this magnitude I'm sure there would be a load of
strong cappital companys that wold just grab their large hands onto
this design of yours.If they had the opportunity...
But perhapps thats not the way you would like to go...


> Compare that to Creati-Flabs who won't even publish the information on
> programming the parameters in their effects processor chips. Many people
> have made some good guesses but at last count there were something like 32
> parameters undefined. And some of the ones that have been defines have some
> strange radix. 

I have a Creati Flabs PNP32 card and have been messing about with those
reverb/flanger paremeters, and 8 times out of 10 it gives you a terrible
feedback squeek, that makes your ears fall off, or at least your air
pressure 
hair inside your ear/head would be heavily bent straight invards...
And the hammer would hammer like a hammer in a iron smith...:-)


> But back to the story. So my concept was to do much the same thing with
> G-Frog. Once the chip(s) was/were patented we'd freely publish the
> programming information for it. Everything you needed to know. Every last

Now, how complex is your chip, how many gates, is it done in CMOS,
how many silicon layers etc....

 
> Anyway the point being that our system would have been launched into this
> market now which is just itching for something like this. I know I certainly
> am. Whilst I like ye olde Nerd Bleed and I really love the Kawai K5K, which
> I _did_ use on the CD, none of these instruments come very close to my
> ideal. And because of the kind of money involved in developing such a
> system, it's not probably ever going to become a reality.
> 
> Kymas and Fairlights and all that stuff don't even scratch the surface.
> They're nice but really ancient technology.
> 
> At 07:25 PM 9/27/97 -0700, BJ wrote:
> 
> >But if this design still exist(SW/HW)you and your mates could strip the
> >hardware
> >down some bit,simplyfying the SW and then have another go for the
> >market..
> 
> Well unfortunately, and I don't mean to be a stick in the mud because I have
> talked about that with the evolution people, it's really all or nothing.
> Stripping the system down renders it to be unpatentable at some point. We
> can strip it down a little but it still requires the same development time
> and costs. A new chip has to be developed because there is no off-the-shelf
> equivalent. To say there's nothing like it in existence is an understatement
> and yet the concept is so simple it's scary. The worst part is that
> someone's bound to come up with it sooner or later. Clavia have only come up
> with part of the picture so far but even then they're in the wrong ball park
> heading in the wrong direction. Great as it may be. I mean I wouldn't mind
> one and If I ever get back on top I surely will.

I dont think Clavia is in the wrong ball park, they are wery wery
sucsesfull
in the ballpark of stand alone machines! Simple to use and a keyboard to
play
interface market..

im personally more interested in cheap stand alone machines then sitting
in
front of a PC screen and poking with a mice on some "virtuall" modules"
or parameter, and att the end of the day have my eye's bemeed away
from the cathode ray's from the PC screen!
Using a PC only makes me fat and non removable... :-)

> >Do you still run AEK AUDIO c/o ?
> 
> That's an interesting question. And one for which I have no direct answer
> to. As is evident from my rantings, I've been very ill over the past year or
> more. In fact I had another operation yesterday. My business partner left in
> the middle of this but not before he shafted me.

Shafte....shafted....shaft.......shaft= stright downvards going tunnel
in a mine?
hmm... thats wath my english/swedis translation dictionary says!
Perhapps what you ment was, "that your former partner took the money and
run away"!
The german dude or?

> even more interesting, our once, so called, 'healthy electronics industry',
> has become nothing short of a joke. A cheap caricature of it's former self.
> All the good ol' boys have been replaced with real cowbows to the point
> where it is impossible to buy technology here. If it wasn't for the great
> man, Paul Schreiber, I just wouldn't be able to get anything done at all.
> Thanks paul I owe you one. So anyway It's debatable whether I can continue
> under such a cloud or just give up. Then again my options are somewhat
> limited now so who knows.

Hmm... explain furter about the AU electronic industry and why Paul
Schreiber
is a great man (Paul S is reading this now,Is'int you, I know that you
do :-)...)

BJ    fat and uggly, runing a Gill Bates CP omuter.......



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