SPAM (Re: EMUSIC Playlist)
jdm at synthcom.com
Sat Jun 7 22:15:02 CEST 1997
At 08:50 PM 6/6/97 GMT, brad at mechanica.com wrote:
>wbf at aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) was saying...
>>About every other week, I receive a request to be removed from the
>>EMUSIC Playlist distribution list. Unfortunately, I can't honor those
>>requests individually for people who get my playlists via one of these
>>email list services:
>> new-age-radio space-music synth-l
>> emusic-l analog heaven ambient
>> mirage synth-diy sgroup
>> xpansions vectory
>Question: Why not simply add these names to your OWN mailing list? All
>it takes is a simple audit request of the mailing list. It's perfectly
>simple; I know,' cause the (other) spammers seem to have no problem
>Then, you COULD honor these requests. Problem solved, and there'd be
>no need for these bi-monthly apologies.
>> You might want to know that I'm not just spamming
>>a bunch of lists. I've targeted lists where there is not only a high
>>probability of space music fans being on the lists, but a high
>>probability of space artists being on these lists....
>Every spam in my mailbox begins and/or ends with words to this effect.
>"Your name was chosen from a list of people who have shown an interest
>in the following..."
>Spam is spam.
Yup. Spam Spam Spam SPam Spam Spam Spam Spam Baked Beans and SPAM!
Mr Fox wrote:
>>1. bring musicians who are in the listening area out of hiding
Add a simple one line sig to any REAL contributions you can make to the
list, for instance:
"In the WDIY listening area? Email me for details about my weekly
electronic music show."
This will cut down on your current glut of non-contributions. Let's face
it, your radio playlist doesn't have a hell of a lot to do with the Mirage,
Xpander, Prophet VS, or even DIY lists (or are you going to tell me that you
can GUARANTEE that a Mirage, Xpander, VS, and homebuilt synth are used on at
least one track of each of your shows?).
>>2. inform my list friends what I'm up to
>You're pushing the envelope with the "friends" part; one sure way to
>AVOID making friends is to regularly spam mailing lists.
I have no problem letting my friends know what I'm up to w/o spamming 11
>>3. promote space music on lists having members who are most likely to
>> be listening to or even making space music.
See the sig suggestion above. Given the exceedingly small percentage of
listmembers in your listening area, you're promoting the premature failure
of a lot of delete keys at present.
>Unless you can include realaudio files (and supply me a cheap ISDN
>line) your playlist does no such thing. It is SELF promotion, pure and
>>4. I'm letting artists know that there is an outlet for their music.
>If you'd audit the mailing lists every week you could simply spam the
>NEW members of these distribution lists. Those that were interested
>could inquire, and those that weren't could tap the "delete" key ONCE,
>without being pestered every week.
But this would require effort on Mr. Fox's part.
>>5. I'm letting space music fans know about artists and CDs of which they
>> may otherwise be unaware.
>See my response to (3), above.
See sig suggestion.
>>6. I'm encouraging would be artists to release product.
>I hardly see how. When will "you people" learn that SPAM is a bad, BAD
>thing? At best it's a mild annoyance - at worse it drives people AWAY
>(as it has done me). If I were a campaign worker, the first thing I'd
>do is get a list of email addresses of my competitors supporters, and
>start spamming away with "friendly words" FROM my competitor. That'd
>be SURE to drive many of'em into my camp - or at least AWAY from my
My sentiments exzctly. You're making more enemies than friends, dude.
>>I hope that you see these as positive things and that you'll be able to
>>tolerate seeing my playlists once a week. Thank you for your kind
Frankly, I'm sick and damn tired of deleting six copies of the same message
every week. (that's down from eight at one time - I've been on an
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