What means 'phaselocked'? (was: Re[3]: Fourier-Analysis and FM-synthesis)
Michael Zacherl - Bacher Systems EDV GmbH
mz at bacher.co.at
Thu May 30 19:48:05 CEST 1996
As far as I can recall all tonewheels sit on a single axle.
So if you got two different signals which have nothing common except that
both are strictly periodic there's a point where they meet again and again.
You'll here a constant beating (depending on the signals of course).
If the beating would change (in any measureable not only audible way) there
would be no 'locking'.
So my question: Is this phaselocked or not?
Thanks for your inputs ...
/mz
> At the risk of being told to take it to the Hammond list, I'd like to
> add that even though the tonewheels in a Hammond Organ are driven by
> the same source (the sync motor) via gear shafts, the tones are not
> really phase-locked in the Fourier sense for a couple reasons:
>
> 1. Individual keys share harmonics with different keys, and since the
> generator is equally tempered this means that everything but the
> octaves will drift a little from each other
>
> 2. Even the octaves may drift from each other due to mechanical losses
> in the system (the gears are driven by friction drives)
>
> But it definitely falls into the category of early additive synthesis.
>
> Hammond organs might be too analog even for the analog mail list -
> maybe "organic" would be a better term. Ooooh sorry about the pun....
>
> - Gene
> gstopp at fibermux.com
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Re[2]: Fourier-Analysis and FM-synthesis
> Author: Bob.Schrum at harpercollins.com at ccrelayout
> Date: 5/30/96 9:39 AM
>
>
> >> From thierry.rochebois at ief-paris-sud.fr Thu May 30 13:52:34 1996
>
> >> This is the very principle of the Hammond organ!
> >> This method has been used in electric organs since 1906 (telharmonium).
> >> A multiple VCO versions was developed in 1966 by James Beauchamp.
>
> > From mz at bacher.co.at (Michael Zacherl - Bacher Systems EDV GmbH)
>
> >Have the VCOs been in phase? As far as I can recall the tonewheels in
> >an early Hammond produced phaselocked harmonics.
>
> Not only that, but the harmonics were 12-tone equal-tempered! That's a
> prime reason why nearly every synth B3 emulation falls short. Only those
> with top-octave dividers or the Voce V3's 91 digital oscillators (do they
> do this with software or an ASIC?) do justice.
>
> Ah yes... the good old days when you had to oil your "oscillator bank"
> every six months! Is that analog or what? :-) They even had voltage
> control of sorts--just whack wthe AC power switch around for the wildest
> pitch bend you've ever heard!
>
>
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