Try the Elektor formant part 2 file from: http://www.tellus.vallentuna.se/gymninfo/personal/anders/andersus.html WARNING this site can be VERY SLOW. In Europe Sunday afternoon works ok. ------------------------------------- Tim Cockram E-mail: tim at redragon.demon.co.uk Phone:-UK-1222-384041 Fax:- UK-1222-390326 -------------------------------------