<div dir="ltr">Just another "fuck behringer" situation</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 4, 2026 at 11:30 PM Mattias Rickardsson <<a href="mailto:mr@analogue.org">mr@analogue.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Perhaps fabless actors like SSI can still turn around the money even if THAT's own fab is not viable for only THAT parts?<div dir="auto">And perhaps even Alfa, if they mostly use their fab for other products?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">/mr</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Den fre 4 sep. 2026 22:44Mike Bryant <<a href="mailto:mbryant@futurehorizons.com" target="_blank">mbryant@futurehorizons.com</a>> skrev:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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If THAT and CoolAudio (and Toshiba, TI and Rohm of course) can't make performance analogue audio parts pay, is there much long term hope for the other THAT parts, and for Alfa, SSI and any others I can't remember ?</div>
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<b>From:</b> Mattias Rickardsson <<a href="mailto:mr@analogue.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mr@analogue.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 September 2026 20:07<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] CoolAudio?</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Fwiw, Alfa at least makes their AS2180 VCA which seems to be a drop-in replacement for THAT 2180/2181 in the surface-mount form factor.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Can't remember seeing any reports on how they compare, are there any?</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Den fre 4 sep. 2026 20:53Mike Bryant <<a href="mailto:mbryant@futurehorizons.com" id="m_6389146465469541144m_4152537784049971196OWA5752532e-8d0c-b59a-564c-874223709ee5" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mbryant@futurehorizons.com</a>> skrev:</div>
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As far as I can work out, the Alfa process is 2 micron BiFETs on 3" wafers. So probably not suitable for the devices THAT are obsoleting, but they may be able to produce something compatible. However their fab is kept going by space work, and the audio chips
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<div style="direction:ltr">On Fri 4 Sep 2026 at 11:30 a.m. Sawtooth Glitch via Synth-diy <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" id="m_6389146465469541144m_4152537784049971196OWA5d2b67f2-8173-5dfc-148f-b1b1362f3e9d" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p style="direction:ltr;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Cabintechglobal.com has stock for several Coolaudio products.</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 4, 2026 7:07 AM<br>
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<p style="direction:ltr;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">Cool audio is part of music tribe and they populate most of Behringer crap.. doubt they will shut up shop but most likely won’t be selling to small timers like us</p>
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<p style="direction:ltr;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 at 15:05, Neil Johnson via Synth-diy <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" id="m_6389146465469541144m_4152537784049971196OWA863e8e0f-7475-b65f-38b0-8e3a8a60e275" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>>
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<p style="direction:ltr;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">Has anyone checked the CoolAudio website recently?</p>
<p style="direction:ltr;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em">Have they shut up shop as well?</p>
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