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Imagine, a whole series of AIs that think it is okay to remove the opto-isolator from a MIDI input
<i>because it still works without it (sic).</i></div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Synth-diy <synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org> on behalf of cheater cheater via Synth-diy <synth-diy@synth-diy.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 July 2026 14:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonatan Liljedahl <lijon@kymatica.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> SDIY <synth-diy@synth-diy.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] AI code generation</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Honestly I wonder if Chinese models trained on the Chinese language<br>
space would be better for electronics design, given how much of it is<br>
being done over there and nowhere else...<br>
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 10:11 PM Jonatan Liljedahl <lijon@kymatica.com> wrote:<br>
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> I had great help from an LLM (don't remember if it was Gemini or GPT) to repair an old shortwave receiver. It guided me step by step until we found a faulty transistor, and helped me pick a replacement.<br>
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> But for circuit design, the results have been mixed, and wasted more time than it saved..<br>
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> /Jonatan<br>
> <a href="http://kymatica.com">http://kymatica.com</a><br>
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> On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 at 13:30, cheater cheater via Synth-diy <synth-diy@synth-diy.org> wrote:<br>
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>> I see some bad experiences with AI and analog electronics. Have any of<br>
>> you tried any of the following approaches?<br>
>><br>
>> 1. Rather than use an image of a schematic diagram, provide it with a<br>
>> plain-text netlist + BOM and have it parse that<br>
>> 2. Use a "research" type AI, which you feed documents. Feed it books<br>
>> and papers about the kinds of things you are doing, and then ask it<br>
>> questions about your circuits<br>
>> 3. Point the AI to trusted resources such as "better quality" forums<br>
>> or even this mailing list's archives in order to get it to answer<br>
>> questions<br>
>> 4. People have mentioned giving the thing access to be able to measure<br>
>> some signals when they were working on DSP code. When working on<br>
>> analog hardware, has anyone tried to give it access to AD/DA and a<br>
>> digital oscilloscope, and build your circuits on a board that has all<br>
>> (or very many) nodes tied to an i/o multiplexer so it can measure<br>
>> things? (I think azonenberg's open source oscilloscope software can be<br>
>> helpful here as the oscilloscope interface)<br>
>> 5. I wonder if some form of modular pick and place machine would be<br>
>> helpful for building circuits. Put all the parts on DIPs, have sockets<br>
>> that can open and close, have the thing connect things... basically a<br>
>> big breadboard style thing. Leave it alone in a dark room for a month<br>
>> and do other stuff in the meantime.<br>
>><br>
>> Has anyone tried spending some time on focused learning on how to use<br>
>> AI for analog circuits? Maybe other forums might have answers, like<br>
>> idk, eev blog or diy audio or gearspace or kvr. It would be<br>
>> interesting to see what others come up with, I think this sort of<br>
>> knowledge is going to be shared across silos but sharing between silos<br>
>> only happens when someone does that on purpose.<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 11:31 AM Mike Bryant <mbryant@futurehorizons.com> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I didn't think it would need an AI to point out that most USB audio dongles are s**t 😄<br>
>> ><br>
>> > ________________________________<br>
>> > From: Synth-diy <synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org> on behalf of rrsounds via Synth-diy <synth-diy@synth-diy.org><br>
>> > Sent: 24 July 2026 08:39<br>
>> > To: Eric Frampton <eric@ericframpton.com><br>
>> > Cc: SDIY <synth-diy@synth-diy.org><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [sdiy] AI code generation<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Using Claude to design audio DSP on my Mac Mini, I ran into a situation where the audio I could hear was occasionally cutting out, with some pretty bad digit-itis squwawking. I wanted to blame the DSP, but Claude couldn’t find an error in the code that
would likely result in such a series of glitches. Since AI is only as good as the questions you give it, I carefully described what I was hearing and it was able to discern by probing into OS system signals that the USB driver for my cheap AES-out dongle (or
the dongle itself) was probably at fault. I attached my Yellotec PUC-2 in its place, and the problem disappeared entirely. And the audio sounded clearer, too, so I guess the dongle was f*cking with me.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > David Reaves<br>
>> > David Reaves Audio.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Sent from my iPad<br>
>> ><br>
>> > > On Jul 24, 2026, at 6:08 AM, Eric Frampton <eric@ericframpton.com> wrote:<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > Also yeah, Claude’s rate for diagnosing hardware issues is pretty bad - maybe 10% of the time it gives me something useful, but when it is useful, it’s spot-on.<br>
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