<div dir="ltr">On the ProSoloist, a ten octave range is required for the VCO charged cap core, which is not in the feedback loop. You can't achieve that with a v/hz architecture. With a v/hz system, the control voltage doubles for every octave and you quickly reach the power rail. Thus the CV for top pitch is defined just below the power rail (opamps back then were not rail-to-rail opamps).<br><div><br></div><div>There's two problems with a v/hz system. One, the pitch range is limited. For a top pitch CV set at 14VDC, a ten octave range would have a descending CV scale of 14V, 7V, 3.5V, 1.75V, 0.875V, 0.4375V, 0.21875V, 0.109375V, uh oh. We have a problem and have only reached eight octaves. The CVs for the lower pitches descend into the inherent limitation of the opamp - the microvolt error domain. The offset error voltages are now a significant contributor to the pitch CV, causing tuning problems that are impossible to trim out because the errors drift with temperature. So a realistic range for a v/hz system is actually six octaves.</div><div><br></div><div>Problem two is modulation CV. A fixed modulation CV will not produce the same modulation depth across the entire range of a v/hz system. If you scale the gain of the modulation CV with pitch you run into another problem; as the pitch CV ascends toward maximum pitch CV, the sum of pitch and modulation CV must not exceed the maximum or you risk opamp latchup or phase inversion.</div><div><br></div><div>That's why v/hz instruments - Moog Taurus I, Taurus III, Minitaur, Sirius, Korg MS series, etc - have a limited pitch range.</div><div><br></div><div>So yes it does need the linear to expo converter for a v/oct system. The beauty of the PS VCO is that no tempco resistor is needed, although the exponential DAC does require a custom resistor array of precision non-standard values.</div><div><br></div><div>MC</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 5, 2026 at 10:01 AM Mike Bryant <<a href="mailto:mbryant@futurehorizons.com">mbryant@futurehorizons.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg8798819476690825872">
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Does it really even need the linear to exp convertor ? The feedback loop will force it to the correct frequency. Portamento could just use a different charging function on the capacitor.</div>
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<b>From:</b> Neil Johnson <<a href="mailto:neil.johnson71@gmail.com" target="_blank">neil.johnson71@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 July 2026 10:26<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael E Caloroso <<a href="mailto:mec.forumreader@gmail.com" target="_blank">mec.forumreader@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mike Bryant <<a href="mailto:mbryant@futurehorizons.com" target="_blank">mbryant@futurehorizons.com</a>>; SYNTH DIY <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] GRP Genesi</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Michael E Caloroso wrote:</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">US 3,930,429</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Don did a write-up of it here: <a href="https://till.com/articles/arp/patents.html#US03930429" id="m_8798819476690825872OWAa015bc9b-e899-6bf6-fc26-5073cda34b6d" target="_blank">
https://till.com/articles/arp/patents.html#US03930429</a></div>
<div style="direction:ltr">Very weird architecture indeed!</div>
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