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Look at the Chinese AIs. They are better and did it for one-tenth of the training and energy use, and using older lithography steps. The American AI companies are wasteful because investors are pouring money in to get to market first, so inefficiencies are
inevitable. But anyway, the energy used in actually using an AI is pretty minimal.</div>
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<b>From:</b> Synth-diy <synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org> on behalf of Steve via Synth-diy <synth-diy@synth-diy.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 April 2026 09:21<br>
<b>To:</b> synth-diy@synth-diy.org <synth-diy@synth-diy.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sdiy] AI code generation</div>
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<div style="font-family: "verdana"; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I think the whole energy thing gets overblown. </div>
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That does not look to be the case.<br>
<a href="https://www.allaboutai.com/resources/ai-statistics/ai-environment/" id="OWA0b62acd3-dca2-3c90-f761-ad12c8d7b868" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">https://www.allaboutai.com/resources/ai-statistics/ai-environment/</a><br>
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<a href="https://eu.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/2026/04/15/how-much-water-energy-land-will-ai-data-centers-use-in-louisiana-potential-community-impacts-here/89624612007/" id="OWAd4aae037-5a52-e343-168d-46eec7b63d0f" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">https://eu.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/2026/04/15/how-much-water-energy-land-will-ai-data-centers-use-in-louisiana-potential-community-impacts-here/89624612007/</a><br>
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Rising electricity cost for people due to demand, yay<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDSaZveGttk" id="OWAca30bba0-afc4-9743-d43e-2b188262d418" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDSaZveGttk</a><br>
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What makes you think they stopped training networks? They improve their models all the time? Also, probably others stepping onto the scene want a piece of the pie, too.<br>
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I think the whole energy thing gets overblown. </div>
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Artists complain that AI takes lots of energy to create an image, but in fact the lightbulb above their worksurface uses far more energy during the long time it takes them to paint or draw something similar.</div>
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There was a lot of energy used early on during training the LLMs, but that is generally done now and work is more on improving how the datasets are used, for example to stop them being misused as tends to make press headlines.</div>
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<b>From:</b> Synth-diy <synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org> on behalf of Mike Beauchamp <list@mikebeauchamp.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2026 23:52<br>
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<div style="font-size: 11pt;">I recently picked up a copy of "Empire of AI" from my local library.<br>
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I was vaguely aware of AI's energy, water and natural resource<br>
plundering. But there was a lot I didn't know, like companies exploiting<br>
thousands in third-world countries to train, refine answers and manually<br>
filter out abhorrent responses.<br>
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I think it's cool that it can help me program faster, but so would me<br>
learning to be a better programmer.<br>
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Mike<br>
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On 2026-04-23 05:14, Brother Theo via Synth-diy wrote:<br>
> Hey everyone,<br>
><br>
> Touchy subject that I need to talk about. I just had Claude AI generate<br>
> a CSound program for a complex effect. Not only did it hit all the<br>
> points I gave it, but it even included some stuff I forgot, like a sound<br>
> source, but also gave me a few ideas on how to operate it. And it took<br>
> less than 15 minutes to do.<br>
><br>
> I know a lot of you will rebel against the idea of AI. I was one of you.<br>
> But this experience has opened my eyes to the possibilities. This piece<br>
> of code would have taken me hours to develop. Claude did it in a<br>
> fraction of the time.<br>
><br>
> My buddy got me into this by telling me his experience. He took a code<br>
> base for a 2007 synth and had Claude make changes and add features.<br>
> Claude even found bugs and fixed them without prompting. The new code is<br>
> working and is being tested.<br>
><br>
> It is a brave new world. Should we feel sorry for the coders?<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Timothy Ressel<br>
> 909-423-5962<br>
> FutureRetro Synthesizers<br>
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