<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">There's a similar heavily-filtered noise source ("infra-red" noise) in the Polyfusion synth schematics.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One problem with this way of generating this type of wandering modulation voltage is that the voltage level is heavily reduced on average, but adding gain to bring it back up is uncertain since the potential maxmium level isn't really decreased at all. E.g. if you add gain, it'll clip - not often, but probably sooner or later.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I've used cosine interpolation between random points to generate a similar waveform digitally. That avoids this issue, and has the advantage that you get some level of control over how fast the waveform changes too.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tom<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 4 Mar 2026, at 04:19, Michael E Caloroso via Synth-diy <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" class="">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Few people realize that the venerable Minimoog includes red noise.  But it's a modulation source not audio.  The front panel NOISE switch alternates between white and pink noise as an audio source, and also between pink and red noise as a modulation source.  Red noise as a modulation source sounds like smoothed S&H.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">MC</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 3, 2026 at 6:14 PM Thomas Hudson via Synth-diy <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" class="">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="line-break:after-white-space" class="">BTW, while researching creating green noise I came across a website for a Mac and iOS app:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="display:block" class=""><div style="display:inline-block" role="link" class=""><a style="border-radius:10px;font-family:-apple-system,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;display:block;width:300px;overflow:hidden;text-decoration:none" rel="nofollow" href="https://simplynoise.com/" dir="ltr" role="button" width="300" target="_blank" class=""><table style="table-layout:fixed;border-collapse:collapse;width:300px;background-color:rgb(13,43,150);font-family:-apple-system,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="300" class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td class=""><table bgcolor="#0D2B96" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="300" style="table-layout:fixed;font-family:-apple-system,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(13,43,150)" class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td style="padding:8px 0px" class=""><div style="max-width:100%;margin:0px 16px;overflow:hidden" class=""><div style="font-weight:500;font-size:12px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left" class=""><a rel="nofollow" href="https://simplynoise.com/" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank" class=""><font color="#FFFFFF" style="color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">The original free color noise generator on the Internet. Hear what your mind has been missing…</font></a></div><div style="font-weight:400;font-size:11px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left" class=""><a rel="nofollow" href="https://simplynoise.com/" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank" class=""><font color="#FFFFFF" style="color:rgba(255,255,255,0.698)" class="">simplynoise.com</font></a></div></div></td><td style="padding:6px 12px 6px 0px" width="30" class=""><a rel="nofollow" href="https://simplynoise.com/" target="_blank" class=""><span id="cid:ii_19cb70f593fbd2bc8d21"><cropped-web_sn_appicon_512-1-180x180.png></span></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div><br id="m_3538729242626118336lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In addition to noise colors, t also has beach sounds, fireplaces, babbling brooks, etc.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Fun little app.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 3, 2026, at 5:56 PM, Thomas Hudson via Synth-diy <<a href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org" target="_blank" class="">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">Interesting idea and article. <br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Mar 3, 2026, at 4:58 PM, Mike Beauchamp <<a href="mailto:list@mikebeauchamp.com" target="_blank" class="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